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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 1:36 am
(August 23, 2016 at 12:50 am)Whateverist Wrote: (August 22, 2016 at 12:26 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: So what about someone who is a partial deist and partial theist?
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Two questions:
Does that mean you your self are leaning a little deist?
Are you the same Pops who'd gotten swept up in some religious predictions?
Don't mean to put you on the spot or embarrass you. I think quite a few of us felt some real fondness for you and were wishing you hadn't painted yourself into that corner.
There are and have been members who were deists. I myself can allow 'gods' exist; I just don't think any of them created everything or have the power to impose an afterlife even if they wanted. So I don't go for any supernaturalism in gods. If they're going to have any reality at all, they're just going to have to make it in the real world the same way we do. Of course, you might wonder if God is so little why even bother? But to my mind, it is only a very little, nearly powerless, entirely personal god which could possibly command my respect or interest. Sorry for double response but I don't recall getting caught up in any religion predictions per say. Could you refresh my memory?
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 8:45 am
I do not hate atheists. I dont even hate atheism per se even though I think many of the ways it manifests itself can be profoundly destructive for people and society just as misguided religion can. I strongly dislike some AF members but I still pray for their well being and for me to learn compassion through them.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 9:22 am
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(August 23, 2016 at 1:35 am)Maelstrom Wrote: I do not hate theists. I strongly dislike them.
My dislike is apparent, due to how theists have a strong desire to go to extreme measures in ensuring that others believe as they do.
I suppose I'd prefer to say I hate pushy people who are intent to garner agreement no matter how disagreeable the means. Many theists fall into this category. With fundamentalist xtians, their dogma specifically directs them to act precisely in this way. So, fuck them in the ass without lube.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 9:25 am
(August 23, 2016 at 1:36 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: (August 23, 2016 at 12:50 am)Whateverist Wrote: Two questions:
Does that mean you your self are leaning a little deist?
Are you the same Pops who'd gotten swept up in some religious predictions?
Don't mean to put you on the spot or embarrass you. I think quite a few of us felt some real fondness for you and were wishing you hadn't painted yourself into that corner.
There are and have been members who were deists. I myself can allow 'gods' exist; I just don't think any of them created everything or have the power to impose an afterlife even if they wanted. So I don't go for any supernaturalism in gods. If they're going to have any reality at all, they're just going to have to make it in the real world the same way we do. Of course, you might wonder if God is so little why even bother? But to my mind, it is only a very little, nearly powerless, entirely personal god which could possibly command my respect or interest. Sorry for double response but I don't recall getting caught up in any religion predictions per say. Could you refresh my memory?
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Thought it might have been you who had predicted 'end times' not too long ago. Not sure I'm remembering that right.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 9:32 am
(August 23, 2016 at 8:45 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I do not hate atheists. I dont even hate atheism per se even though I think many of the ways it manifests itself can be profoundly destructive for people and society just as misguided religion can. I strongly dislike some AF members but I still pray for their well being and for me to learn compassion through them.
What do you think are the behaviors and attitudes which you specially hate? Is smug self satisfaction one of them? Perhaps name calling and saying deliberately hurtful things? Back when I was a kid and a believer, when I first heard of atheists I thought they were just such ingrates; now I realize it is possible to be grateful without that being directed to someone, whether supernatural or otherwise.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 10:59 am
(August 23, 2016 at 12:43 am)Whateverist Wrote: (August 21, 2016 at 5:26 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Just a simple question.
Why the fuck do I hate theists?
Well...
Strongly dislike. Let me see if I can guess. Did you ever have to attend church, take part in a religious ritual or pretend you were a believer when in fact you were not? That might leave a little residue of resentment. On the other hand if you were so cleverly handled that you not only bought the whole thing but studied apologetics or actively recruited new believers - and then finally realized it was all for naught. Well then you have the grounds for not only resentment but also some niggling self hatred.
What do I win? I don't actually hate them but I did attend a masjiq or an islamic church.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 11:00 am
(August 23, 2016 at 12:50 am)Whateverist Wrote: (August 22, 2016 at 12:26 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: So what about someone who is a partial deist and partial theist?
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Two questions:
Does that mean you your self are leaning a little deist?
Are you the same Pops who'd gotten swept up in some religious predictions?
Don't mean to put you on the spot or embarrass you. I think quite a few of us felt some real fondness for you and were wishing you hadn't painted yourself into that corner.
There are and have been members who were deists. I myself can allow 'gods' exist; I just don't think any of them created everything or have the power to impose an afterlife even if they wanted. So I don't go for any supernaturalism in gods. If they're going to have any reality at all, they're just going to have to make it in the real world the same way we do. Of course, you might wonder if God is so little why even bother? But to my mind, it is only a very little, nearly powerless, entirely personal god which could possibly command my respect or interest.
I gotta change my tag from agnostic to gnostic.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 11:01 am
(August 22, 2016 at 6:54 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: (August 22, 2016 at 1:19 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Then it just depends on.how they are as a human morally. Sounds like a good criteria to judge all, not some, right?
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Just remember I don't actually hate people.
That is how I judge people just lettin you know.
I'm sure everyone does.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 11:49 am
(August 23, 2016 at 9:25 am)Whateverist Wrote: (August 23, 2016 at 1:36 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: Sorry for double response but I don't recall getting caught up in any religion predictions per say. Could you refresh my memory?
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Thought it might have been you who had predicted 'end times' not too long ago. Not sure I'm remembering that right. I recall mentioning something once, but nothing overly specific, and I'm not sure if it was here or not.
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RE: Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)
August 23, 2016 at 11:50 am
(August 23, 2016 at 9:32 am)Whateverist Wrote: (August 23, 2016 at 8:45 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I do not hate atheists. I dont even hate atheism per se even though I think many of the ways it manifests itself can be profoundly destructive for people and society just as misguided religion can. I strongly dislike some AF members but I still pray for their well being and for me to learn compassion through them.
What do you think are the behaviors and attitudes which you specially hate? Is smug self satisfaction one of them? Perhaps name calling and saying deliberately hurtful things? Back when I was a kid and a believer, when I first heard of atheists I thought they were just such ingrates; now I realize it is possible to be grateful without that being directed to someone, whether supernatural or otherwise. God is a spirit in a sense. Much more so than a person surely.
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