Part on Feminisim.

[ScienceAf]

Uhm... Is this supposed to be a poem, or something?  Hey, junior - perhaps you should leave heavy subjects like rape for after you've lived a little, when you have some idea about stuff. You're really spewing cringe-worthy sh*t right here. Just a thought. I know that at your age it's cool and exhilarating to be able to express your opinion. But what you should take into account, is that at your age most of your opinions are uninformed and wrong. You should make fewer unsubstantiated assertions and read more, just because you recon you have something figured out - doesn't make it so.

"No one can do anything about rape"? What are you talking about? We can do things about rape and we're doing them. Part of it is deconstructing the sexist fantasies, that are still being imprinted on young people's minds by conservative patriarchal parts of society.

And as for being protected - everyone, male or female needs protection - that's why we have laws, the police, judges, the military and so on. No, men don't "defend themselves" - we need those same protection women do. Seriously - time to start growing up and forget the silly fairy-tales about knights and princesses - that's not how the world works. If you're a man and get sh*t kicked out of you - the police is obliged to defend you. The idea of feminism (not "feminism", whatever you think that is) in relation to violence and rape - is that woman beaten, or raped by her husband should be allowed the same protection, as any citizen, who's being victimized by another. Which is not always the case, since many backward parts of certain societies still consider violence against women (or children) as tolerable, if not outright acceptable.

I have no idea what you mean by "We can't do things sometimes. That's okay." Yeah, sure - that's what Martin Luther King should have told the black people... "Sorry, guys - there will always be racism. Nothing anyone can do about it. It's okay. Go home and try to stay away from angry white people with ropes and burning crosses."

By nothing can be done I meant that rapr will never go away.
And the thing with mlk is that he was protecting human rights, he couldn't stop rasiscim.

[ScienceAf]

And look, I was just expressing my view.
I'm open to criticism and enlightenment

[Athene]

And look, I was just expressing my view.
I'm open to criticism and enlightenment

No, you're not.

You're looking for a sounding board, where you're free to spout the garbage of your choosing, yet won't be burdened with prospect of actually being taken to task; No more than a 12 year-old would, at any rate.

My hat's off to you, sir. Your confidence must be through the roof.

[Alex K]

Woke up.
14 page emo thread on feminism and rape.

Methinks it is as fuck.

This thread is not about any of that. The op just got misplaced

You could just split the thread after the OP

[Homeless Nutter]

By nothing can be done I meant that rapr will never go away.

Perhaps not entirely. So what? Does that mean we should stop trying to minimize it?

And the thing with mlk is that he was protecting human rights, he couldn't stop rasiscim.

The struggle against racism continues. One step at a time. Same with gender inequality - progress is being made against it, if slowly. Rates of sexual violence against women in the Western World have been steadily going down for decades. And hey - USA, one of the countries leading in equality and democracy may finally have a woman president - the first one in the country's history. Right after the first African-American president, despite women having quite a head-start in terms of political rights. Progress takes time. That doesn't mean that nothing can, or should be done to help it along.

And look, I was just expressing my view.

Yes, I gathered as much. However, you should have asked yourself - is anyone interested in your view on this particular - fairly "touchy" - subject, on which you can't realistically have much knowledge? Is your insight worth potentially upsetting people, who may be more affected by gender inequality, or sexual violence than you are?

Everyone has opinions on all sorts of grizzly sh*t - most of us keep them private and avoid casually discussing certain subjects, unless we're sure we have something of value to add. Facts are generally more appreciated, than unsubstantiated, unsolicited opinions, so maybe gather and present some of those, before you tell us what you recon about this whole feminism thing.

I'm open to criticism and enlightenment

Fair enough. Consider yourself "enlightened"...

[ScienceAf]

And look, I was just expressing my view.
I'm open to criticism and enlightenment

No, you're not.

You're looking for a sounding board, where you're free to spout the garbage of your choosing, yet won't be burdened with prospect of actually being taken to task; No more than a 12 year-old would, at any rate.

My hat's off to you, sir. Your confidence must be through the roof.

How would you know?

I dont see anything wrong with what I said, I also never added that we shouldn't try to minimize rape, I sid we  can't get rid of it, at least for a while.

[Jesster]

Fine, I'll post something.

We've been allowed to beat 12-year-old kids for acting up for so long now. I mean, it's tradition. It's not like we can stop it from happening, so let's just embrace it. True equality will never happen anyway, so who cares? We can't just teach adults to not beat 12-year-olds. The kids should just learn to defend themselves if they don't want to get hit.

[ScienceAf]

By nothing can be done I meant that rapr will never go away.

Perhaps not entirely. So what? Does that mean we should stop trying to minimize it?

And the thing with mlk is that he was protecting human rights, he couldn't stop rasiscim.

The struggle against racism continues. One step at a time. Same with gender inequality - progress is being made against it, if slowly. Rates of sexual violence against women in the Western World have been steadily going down for decades. And hey - USA, one of the countries leading in equality and democracy may finally have a woman president - the first one in the country's history. Right after the first African-American president, despite women having quite a head-start in terms of political rights. Progress takes time. That doesn't mean that nothing can, or should be done to help it along.

And look, I was just expressing my view.

Yes, I gathered as much. However, you should have asked yourself - is anyone interested in your view on this particular - fairly "touchy" - subject, on which you can't realistically have much knowledge? Is your insight  worth potentially upsetting people, who may be more affected by gender inequality, or sexual violence than you are?

Everyone has opinions on all sorts of grizzly sh*t - most of us keep them private and avoid casually discussing certain subjects, unless we're sure we have something of value to add. Facts are generally more appreciated, than unsubstantiated, unsolicited opinions, so maybe gather and present some of those, before you tell us what you recon about this whole feminism thing.

I'm open to criticism and enlightenment

Fair enough. Consider yourself "enlightened"...

I nwver said we shouldn't minimize it. 
 
Its good that rape and racisim is going down, but it won't leave. It's not like I want to talk about it because I want it to stay, I want rape to dissapear. 
I'm saying that giving people safe spaces isn't going to help because it strays away from gender equality. 

And cool a women's president, might stand up for women's rights but she's still the president and that's get job. If she's  qualified thats good. It's not my fault women have different life style choices. We can encourage women to, that might make things bette.

I still knew people would respond, I was curious, if people are triggered by this subject that's not my fault, but hind sight is alsi 20/20. 
 
And where else am I gonna get to express my views, real life? Where I cold affect the way someone looks at me forever? That's to risky.

[Arkilogue]

Its good that rape and racisim is going down, but it won't leave. It's not like I want to talk about it because I want it to stay, I want rape to dissapear. 

You haven't read any news from Germany/Sweden/Finland/the UK have you? Rape and racism is going WAAAAAY up.

And you no what? Many rapes/assaults are not being reported for fear of seeming racist against the "imigrants".

How fucked up is that? So afraid of peoples opinions that rape and assault on mostly women and minors gets overlooked and brushed under the carpet.

Liberalism is incapable of defending liberalism.

[ScienceAf]

Its good that rape and racisim is going down, but it won't leave. It's not like I want to talk about it because I want it to stay, I want rape to dissapear. 

You haven't read any news from Germany/Sweden/Finland/the UK have you? Rape and racism is going WAAAAAY up.

And you no what? Many rapes/assaults are not being reported for fear of seeming racist against the "imigrants".

How fucked up is that?  So afraid of peoples opinions that rape and assault on mostly women and minors gets overlooked and brushed under the carpet.

Liberalism is incapable of defending liberalism.

I'm confused because people are saying it's going up, and then saying it's not.