Why do the ritors ask for Justice?

[Thumpalumpacus]

You donate to post animated gifs? More fool you.

Yes, I donate just to post animated gifs....

You're becoming more idiotic with each post.  Soon, you'll just be smearing feces on your monitor.

... as opposed to ours.

[Thumpalumpacus]

.......................................... reverse murder, pablo.......?  

These threads are like bigoted homing beacons, calling all the racists back to mothership.

Ironic interlude:

[RobertE]

You should be fighting your demons mate instead of spitting your hatred and making disparaging remarks about people.

Have a beer on me mate.

I'll let you know when your advice is wanted. Until then, ponder the irony of you complaining about someone "spitting your hatred and making disparaging remarks about people."

It's not you I hate -- I could not care less about you one way or the other, and you sure don't merit emotional investment so far as I can see -- no, it's not you I hate, it's your racism.

I'll pass on the beer, thanks ... and the baiting, for that matter.

At the end of the day, you will never know what my true thoughts are, and that is to my advantage.

I've been operating on the assumption that you're at least an honest man. Ought I revise that?

On a forum, you can be anyone you like. I could be the king of England, I could be the president of the United States. Anyone can be honest and dishonest to suit their own agendas i.e. game of oneupmanship.  

So, for being honest. Most of what I have said is partially true about myself. As for my opinions, I work, talk and go to restaurants with Africans and I don't see anything wrong with them. Secondly, I have never met an African-American so, I cannot even have any judgement, only an opinion of what I see on a video. I am not trying to make excuses when I say that I have probably seen more brutish antics from caucasians than I have blacks. My late father and I used to be part of a West Indian Association in the Midlands (United Kingdom) and it was brilliant because we were able to exchange tactics and plans for a game of cricket and this lasted for over 10 years. You are probably a baseball man so, you may know of the father-son bonding when it comes to sports that require a bat and ball. Roughly 46% of my secondary school were Muslims, and I had great pleasure in visiting a mosque for the first time in 1984 and it was a better feeling than a church. At the end of the day, if a white man had been treated by the cops in the same way as the black person was treated, I can assure you (on my childrens lives), that I would use the same discourse. I am simply a law and order person who enjoys a nice quiet life in a major capital. 

As for the beer jibe, I know that you have discussed briefly about your problems so, I apologise sincerely for my remark which was out of character and was not needed. I am sorry Thump. Have a great evening.

[Minimalist]

Funny how racists love to flip the script and whine about reverse racism...

So you're going to double down with the sweeping generalizations?

I was born in Mississippi, my family is from an area where there are no whites, and never have I heard of anyone being taught to hate whites.

BTW you totally avoided addressing my point to talk some nonsense.

Well a lot of black people commit reverse murder and kill white people.

Define "a lot."  Because other than fuckheads like Drumpf making up shit the facts show that most blacks are killed by other blacks and most whites are killed by other whites.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...e-victims/

The most glaring inaccuracies have to do with white homicide victims. Trump cast blacks as the primary killers of whites, but the exact opposite is true. By overwhelming percentages, whites tend to kill other whites. Similarly, blacks tend to kill other blacks. These trends have been observed for decades.

[Thumpalumpacus]

On a forum, you can be anyone you like. I could be the king of England, I could be the president of the United States. Anyone can be honest and dishonest to suit their own agendas i.e. game of oneupmanship.  

So, for being honest. Most of what I have said is partially true about myself.

Good to know this. You may be sincere, or you may be full of shit, and you won't commit either way.

I generally give people the benefit of the doubt online -- it can't hurt me, they can't hurt me with their dishonesty. It's not very often I come across someone who cops to bullshitting an audience as openly as you're doing here.

As for my opinions [...]

Yeah, they could be honest, or they could be bullshit, you could be playing the crowd or trying to bait someone ... or perhaps you're racist. I get it, you'd rather be regarded as untrustworthy than be regarded as a bigot.

I'm still going to take your words at face value. If you wish to disown them, you can do so at your own leisure

You are probably a baseball man [...]

This shows how little you know about America.

At the end of the day, if a white man had been treated by the cops in the same way as the black person was treated, I can assure you (on my childrens lives), that I would use the same discourse. I am simply a law and order person who enjoys a nice quiet life in a major capital. 

Well, white men have been treated that way too -- but not as often, which is rather the point.

As for the beer jibe, I know that you have discussed briefly about your problems so, I apologise sincerely for my remark which was out of character and was not needed. I am sorry Thump. Have a great evening.

I'm open about my struggle with alcoholism, and part of that openness -- part of my recovery -- is the expectation that people will use it as a cheap shot. You gave in to the urge to be low. Not the first time, won't be the last that I've seen it, and your apology is unnecessary; your comment is simply one more data point by which I calibrate your character. I appreciate you offering an apology. That too is a data point. We'll see which one carries more weight.

[The Grand Nudger]

"I have black friends"............................. 

[abaris]

"I have black friends"............................. 

Some even have Nigerian coworkers they draw in kicking and screaming at every given opportunity.

[RobertE]

On a forum, you can be anyone you like. I could be the king of England, I could be the president of the United States. Anyone can be honest and dishonest to suit their own agendas i.e. game of oneupmanship.  

So, for being honest. Most of what I have said is partially true about myself.

Good to know this. You may be sincere, or you may be full of shit, and you won't commit either way.

I generally give people the benefit of the doubt online -- it can't hurt me, they can't hurt me with their dishonesty. It's not very often I come across someone who cops to bullshitting an audience as openly as you're doing here.

As for my opinions [...]

Yeah, they could be honest, or they could be bullshit, you could be playing the crowd or trying to bait someone ... or perhaps you're racist. I get it, you'd rather be regarded as untrustworthy than be regarded as a bigot.

I'm still going to take your words at face value. If you wish to disown them, you can do so at your own leisure

You are probably a baseball man [...]

This shows how little you know about America.

At the end of the day, if a white man had been treated by the cops in the same way as the black person was treated, I can assure you (on my childrens lives), that I would use the same discourse. I am simply a law and order person who enjoys a nice quiet life in a major capital. 

Well, white men have been treated that way too -- but not as often, which is rather the point.

As for the beer jibe, I know that you have discussed briefly about your problems so, I apologise sincerely for my remark which was out of character and was not needed. I am sorry Thump. Have a great evening.

I'm open about my struggle with alcoholism, and part of that openness -- part of my recovery -- is the expectation that people will use it as a cheap shot. You gave in to the urge to be low. Not the first time, won't be the last that I've seen it, and your apology is unnecessary; your comment is simply one more data point by which I calibrate your character. I appreciate you offering an apology. That too is a data point. We'll see which one carries more weight.

I felt it was necessary though to be honest. When you asked me if I knew anyone who was from the United States. I was friends with one and she lived in England when we were part of a political movement (a long time ago.) She lived in England for many years and for what she is doing now, I have absolutely no idea since I left that political group years ago.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I felt it was necessary though to be honest. When you asked me if I knew anyone who was from the United States. I was friends with one and she lived in England when we were part of a political movement (a long time ago.) She lived in England for many years and for what she is doing now, I have absolutely no idea since I left that political group years ago.

You'll forgive my laughing at you feeling it "necessary" to be honest, as if you have to do it or else ...

And furthermore, you told me previously you didn't know any Americans and were glad for that fact.

[RobertE]

I felt it was necessary though to be honest. When you asked me if I knew anyone who was from the United States. I was friends with one and she lived in England when we were part of a political movement (a long time ago.) She lived in England for many years and for what she is doing now, I have absolutely no idea since I left that political group years ago.

You'll forgive my laughing at you feeling it "necessary" to be honest, as if you have to do it or else ...

And furthermore, you told me previously you didn't know any Americans and were glad for that fact.

Well, I was simply being a wanker, nothing more, nothing less. As for the American, yes, she was a student in another campus doing Political Science (I was doing Environmental Science and Ecology.) She was a bundle of laughs, very pretty, but she used to wear green leggings similar to this:



And I thought, no thanks. Her boyfriend (I guess her husband by now) and I used to go running together and sell Socialist newspapers every Saturday, went to various manifestations in London and many seminars as a group, including a nice little stand-off between us and the Anti-Nazi league. And yes, I have met Tony Cliff (Yigael Gluckstein), Alex Callinicos amongst many others including believe it or not, my old Science teacher..... .

All in all, I left to concentrate on my studies and I regret not keeping in touch with them. 

Bold is mine:

Of course I had to do it. It was something that should never have been brought up, let us be honest about that. Whatever happens in other peoples lives rests with them and it shouldn't be used as a tool to get your own back. I hope you can see it from my point of view.