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Christian Self-censorship of Dirty Words
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 You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  RE: Christian Self-censorship of Dirty Words
October 15, 2016 at 6:05 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2016 at 6:05 pm by Arkilogue.)
Never understood "God dammit!"....if the situation is bad enough to swear, it's clearly already damned. ;p
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Fuck yes. I have noticed that.
 (October 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm)mihoda Wrote: Do you ever notice that some people, usually extremely religious people, just totally lose their shit when dirty words are spoken? You can be talking about sensitive adult-subjects, like Trump's sexual assault, and they're totally fine with defending the Gropenfuhrer, but quote Trump by using the word 'pussy' in a sentence and suddenly YOU are the person who is beyond the pale. Like anything else, some things really bother some people and some bother others. Some people totally lose their cool when they hear someone speaking "christianese".  (October 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Not quite sure if this is on the same level but here goes. Jimmy Carter quote: "I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times." Speaking just for christianity here, yes. Objectifying other human beings, creating fantasies in your own mind for your own pleasure. Matthew 5:28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."  (October 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Not quite sure if this is on the same level but here goes. Jimmy Carter quote: "I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times." First it's important to note that in Christianity, the sin of lust is NOT sexual attraction. It's the conscious decision to dehumanize and objectify another person. So yes, in Christianity, it is wrong to perceive another person as an object of your own gratification rather than a full human being who deserves to be viewed with dignity and respect. Even if you never act on it, having that perception of/attitude towards another human being is immoral.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh 
OK. Have either of you committed this sin?
Have you coveted? (just thinking this might be along the same line)
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RE: Christian Self-censorship of Dirty Words
October 16, 2016 at 8:41 am
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2016 at 8:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm)mihoda Wrote: Why is this? Why is propriety for some defined as a list of forbidden words? Why is it that words in the conversation clearly bother some people more than the heinous implications of the conversation? Because taboo positively and demonstrably -creates- perversion and fetish. By creating a list of taboo words you also create a perversion of speech and perception, and a fetish for avoiding any association with that perversion. It's the relationship between enforced unfamiliarity and experienced discomfort.
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(October 16, 2016 at 7:28 am)mh.brewer Wrote: OK. Have either of you committed this sin? I have committed the sin of dehumanizing people, but not in a sexual sense. I think it's usually men who struggle with that one. The way I've dehumanized people in my mind is when I've seen someone who is just super weird looking... like, wearing really weird clothes, having a ton of crazy piercings, weird hair colors, super goth types.... rather than just going on about my day and reminding myself that they are people, I kinda laugh in my head about it or think for a little too long about how weird they are. I've viewed them like pawns in a freak show rather than humans and that is wrong of me. To covet just means to be jealous/envious of what someone else has and dwelling on the wish that you had that thing instead of them. I think we've all done that. I'm sure I have.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh 
British slang from the 19th Century, the word "cor!" was acceptable while "cor blimey" was not because it was a euphemism for "God blind me", aka taking the Lord's name in vain.
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