I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[Cyberman]

I get that; however now I've had to tell him twice without acknowledgement, my hands are free to act potentially more officially in the future. Think of it as foreplay.

[LadyForCamus]

I get that; however now I've had to tell him twice without acknowledgement, my hands are free to act potentially more officially in the future. Think of it as foreplay.

I, for one, can't wait for the climax! It's going to be so...cathartic. [emoji56]

[Thumpalumpacus]

Oh fuck, the font size is growing. Kill it before it gets worse!

Kinda like kudzu, eh?

[Arkilogue]

I continue all the time repeatedly as to wear out the temper of our dear fellow humans here who are atheists, I continue with telling atheists here that we will go forth into objective reality to search for all instances of causation, which all are concrete evidence of the existence of an entity in objective reality corresponding to the concept of God, namely, in concept, first and foremost the creator, understand that as cause, and the operator, understand as cause, of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

Now, let you and me, let us recall that our parents caused us to come into existence and life, by their love-making.

That is one instance of causation, and God is the first and ultimate cause of all intermediary causes; think about that, with your reason and intelligence grounded on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

Parents , Yes. All the more reason to believe in multiple gods as the source of creation. The love making of the gods is what brought all this into existence.

God before creation as an infinite mas is sexless. When the inherent pattern of God moves the matter of God into form, that is the "sexual" differentiation and love making that creates the space of the universe like a womb for growing life. And here we are.

[dyresand]

This is my proof for God existing.

1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.

5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


What do you think about my proof for the existence of God?

That's not proof

[Mariosep]

Thanks everyone for your presence and contribution to my thread.

I have the honor to compliment the founders, owners, and operators of Atheistforums.org, for their goodness in bearing with my presence here, thanks a lot, indeed.

I regret that I have not been successful to effect a sustained exchange with posters here on an one on one protocol, too bad for me.


So, I will just reply to posters here as I find them to be relevant to the thread here which is about giving comments to my proof on the existence of God, and also they are not predominantly acting hostile toward me.

Now, dear atheist colleagues here, if you feel that I am not responding to your posts, and you want me to respond to your posts, then but forgive first, see if your posts are relevant to the thread, and also more important whether you are not predominantly acting hostile toward me, instead of just keeping to ideas.

So, here again is the gist of my argument for God existing:

I have the information of the concept of God which is that in concept God is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

When dear atheist colleagues here, when you have no information or you have but you don't present it in your post, then I cannot be interacting with you to any productive purpose apropos of the thread.

Now, from the information of the concept I go into objective reality of existence, to search for evidence which leads me to conclude from the evidence that there exists an entity which corresponds to the information of the concept of God, namely, in concept God is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

That in gist is my proof.

The whole process is based upon the phenomenon of causation; so when you atheists deny the phenomenon of causation, then that makes you feel certain that there is no God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

Please center your comment then on my proof by proving that there is no phenomenon of causation.

Now, I am just going to move this text I have just written to the top, and move the quotes to below it, I hope everything will turn out all right.

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    Mariosep
    .-.

    Dear colleagues here, I fear that this thread could be locked up when the posts here are getting into irrelevancies and flippancies.

    So, as Asmodee has not yet reported here, I will pursue my purpose here which is to get your comments on my proof for the existence of God.


    May I request that we all take up with an academic mood by which if we were in an academic environment we would take care to think as to deliver our thoughts without showing signs of irrelevancies and flippancies - that is a most enticing temptation afforded by the anonymity of the internet.


    So, may I request that we go into the work to think up what it is to prove that something exists in objective reality of existence outside of concepts in our mind, and independent of our mind?

    First, for myself, even to prove the existence of the nose in our face is difficult already, though everyone with a nose, that includes everyone here I dare presume, knows for a certainty that the nose exists in our face; still to think on how to prove it with concepts and words and statements made up of words and redact that all in clear concise and precise language, that is not a simple and quick act.

    Anyway, will you concur with me that in the case of things like the nose in our face, the best and most reliable proof consists in you and me touching each one our respective nose and then the nose of everyone else?

    At this point there will always be someone who insists that he is not sure he exists in objective reality of existence, much less his nose if any at all, how do we dare with him?


    dyresand

        Mariosep
        This is my proof for God existing.

        1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
        "God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

        2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

        3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

        4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.

        5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

        6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


        What do you think about my proof for the existence of God?


    That's not proof

[Whateverist]

Oh my god, GO AWAY.  

You think maybe we are in the presence of an extra special snowflake?

[Mariosep]

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Arkilogue, you say:

From Mariosep
   That is one instance of causation, and God is the first and ultimate cause of all intermediary causes; think about that, with your reason and intelligence grounded on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

From Arkilogue
Parents , Yes. All the more reason to believe in multiple gods as the source of creation. The love making of the gods is what brought all this into existence.


That is a very productive insight, that there could be multiple gods.

That is what we will go into in another thread, namely, why and how there is only one God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

But right now I will share with you that there is this principle which is accepted by all serious sincere honest persevering thinkers, namely, that things should not be multiplied unnecessarily.

So when we prove that God is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, reason and intelligence tells us that there cannot be except only one such god, that is why I as a theist call god God with a capital G.

Now, if you insist that you enjoy freedom of thought and you will keep to multiple gods, I will tell you, Go in peace sir, and have a good time with multiple gods, that should already dispense you from carrying the atheists' what I might call - forgive me, party i.d. card.


I have to leave now, I will be back later in the early evening hours.


And yes, if you don't see me responding to your posts, please also understand that I have got nothing against your posts, except that I seek to respond aside from my criteria that posts should be relevant to the thread here and posters should not bear any hostility in their language toward me, namely, here is another criterion, namely, as I surf this thread, and as I already said I am only one person and not a battalion, I respond to the latest posts that I happen to land on when I open this thread everytime I come here.

[Primordial Bisque]

Mariosep, forget about God for a moment. I think you need to work on your proof that a reply button exists.

[pocaracas]

Hey idiot, I can't understand where your words begin and the other guy's end!
Learn to quote people properly!
One more stupid ass post like that and I report you for trolling!

How hard can it be to press a damn button that says "Reply"?!?!?!
How many people have told you the same damn thing?!

You're just being stupid on purpose now. And that is trolling!

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Arkilogue, you say:

From Mariosep
   That is one instance of causation, and God is the first and ultimate cause of all intermediary causes; think about that, with your reason and intelligence grounded on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

From Arkilogue
Parents , Yes. All the more reason to believe in multiple gods as the source of creation. The love making of the gods is what brought all this into existence.


That is a very productive insight, that there could be multiple gods.

That is what we will go into in another thread, namely, why and how there is only one God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

But right now I will share with you that there is this principle which is accepted by all serious sincere honest persevering thinkers, namely, that things should not be multiplied unnecessarily.

So when we prove that God is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, reason and intelligence tells us that there cannot be except only one such god, that is why I as a theist call god God with a capital G.

Now, if you insist that you enjoy freedom of thought and you will keep to multiple gods, I will tell you, Go in peace sir, and have a good time with multiple gods, that should already dispense you from carrying the atheists' what I might call - forgive me, party i.d. card.


I have to leave now, I will be back later in the early evening hours.


And yes, if you don't see me responding to your posts, please also understand that I have got nothing against your posts, except that I seek to respond aside from my criteria that posts should be relevant to the thread here and posters should not bear any hostility in their language toward me, namely, here is another criterion, namely, as I surf this thread, and as I already said I am only one person and not a battalion, I respond to the latest posts that I happen to land on when I open this thread everytime I come here.

Also, your proof proves nothing!
Just proves that you're an idiot who thinks he can sell BS to idiots like him.... and you probably can. But that crap doesn't fly here... it doesn't even start moving, let alone get off the ground.