You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
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 You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.   RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 2, 2016 at 2:19 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2016 at 2:19 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
Quote:let us all sit back and await with bated breath for our atheist colleagues: to lead us step by step, to the certainty of God not existing in objective reality outside of concepts in our mind. If you're going to strawman atheists preemptively, at least try to be subtle about it.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson 
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.  (November 2, 2016 at 1:56 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Hopefully he is unacquainted with the Popeye Principle. Everything's better with Olive Oyl on top?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (November 2, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Dear atheist colleagues, thanks a lot for your presence and contribution to this my thread, "I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?" Hmm....nope, it still has the same, unchanged, and glaring logic issues....like affirming the consequent. Affirming the consequent, Mariosep. Affirming. The. Consequent. Affirming the consequent, affirming the consequent, affirming the consequent....
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 (November 2, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Mariosep Wrote: This is my proof for God existing.You do realize that we see this list thusly, right? 1. Make some shit up to decide what kind of God I want to exist. 2. Look for evidence I am right 3. Find evidence I am right 4. Infer from the evidence that I am right that I am right 5. Find from the evidence that I am right that I am right 6. Conclude that I am right You're making the mistake of just repeating the same thing. If we didn't get it the first hundred times what makes you think we're going to see it differently time 101. Unless, of course, you say it again ALL IN CAPS WITH EXCLAMATION POINTS!!! How could we NOT understand it if you do that? Seriously, though, the conclusion you should be drawing here is that your first post is as crap on page 45 as it was on 1. How do you not get that concept by now?
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Your "proof" failed on page one, Mariosep.
You've not only lost but proved yourself to be a liar. If your god actually does exist, I don't think it's going to be very happy with you publicly embarrassing it in this fashion. Your only recourse now is to toss your Bible in the closest dumpster, take a sledgehammer to the cross around your neck and smash it into metal shavings, say rude things about the Holy Spirit, and hope like heck that that's enough to throw Yahweh off your scent.  (November 2, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Today I will invite you instead to lead me step by step: to come to the certainty God does not exist in objective reality outside of concepts in our mind. No, the burden of proof is on you. Extradordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. A sophistic chain of pseudo philosophical assumptions doesn't count. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
 (November 2, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Mariosep Wrote: [edit] Mario, seems that you have come to the conclusion that you can't prove your proposition, at least to our satisfaction. Now you want us to disprove something that you failed to prove. Do you even understand how absurd that thinking is?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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