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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 4, 2016 at 9:18 pm
(November 4, 2016 at 6:59 pm)Mariosep Wrote: The right thing if he be into truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, is to from his part propose his information on the concept of God, and then we will work together as to in effect join up on the issue.
My concept of god is that he is merely a figment of the human imagination, on par with other fanciful non-entities such as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Shall we work from there?
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 4, 2016 at 9:50 pm
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(November 4, 2016 at 6:59 pm)Mariosep Wrote: If is not at all reasonable and much less intelligent to be debating on something, over which there is no concurred on information on the concept or definition of the object being debated on, in regard to its existence outside of our mind in objective reality of existence.
On my step 1, formulation of the concept of God, Simon asserts that I am already affirming the consequent, that is patently wrong from his part.
No, it isn't wrong. You are affirming the consequent. Your first premise is the same as your conclusion. Including the word 'exists' in the conclusion does not make any difference. You are going off an assumption that your god already exists just by stating it's function. It's not that difficult to understand.
But it doesn't matter because you keep using the word 'concept'. You already know the truth: that there are no physical properties. Your concept of god lacks the necessary attributes, and is meaningless. You've lost. You've been losing since your first post.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 5, 2016 at 2:50 am
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(November 4, 2016 at 9:18 pm)Rosie_Rivets Wrote: My concept of god is that he is merely a figment of the human imagination, on par with other fanciful non-entities such as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Shall we work from there?
Sounds good to Me. Okay, Mariosep, we're going to go with the Rosie_Rivets god-concept instead of yours, as we seem to have consensus here for the "gods are imaginary" hypothesis, and no consensus for your hypothesis.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 5, 2016 at 6:20 am
(November 3, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I wouldn't even give this one a learner's permit toward becoming an atheist. We have standards.
Let's not be too hasty here, mario might have access to lots of babies. My supplies are rapidly diminishing.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 5, 2016 at 6:27 am
(November 4, 2016 at 3:36 am)operator Wrote: (November 4, 2016 at 2:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote: To put it simply, no one.
Says who? You? Are you the ultimate authority in defining supreme intelligence?
(November 4, 2016 at 2:28 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: I did.
Oh my. All HAIL APENOTKILLAPE!
Huggy's an idiot. Better not to follow him down the rabbit hole.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 5, 2016 at 6:37 am
(November 4, 2016 at 5:10 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Dear atheist colleagues here, thanks for your presence and contribution to my thread.
I am still waiting for Simon Moon to show up.
You see, he seems to be systematic in his comments on my proof for God existing, and complains that I do not attend to his refutation.
Now that I am into full time one on one with him, he only posted one message about his idea of me affirming the consequent is from a textbook of his.
After that post which I reacted to, telling him to think for himself and not depend on a textbook, etc., he has not shown up anymore to date.
But I will check again whether I am correct that to date he has not shown up in this thread of mine, to react to my message to him to think for himself instead of depending on a textbook.
Be back after checking again.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 5, 2016 at 7:34 am
Mario, please stop with this convoluted nonsense. Simply SAY WHAT YOU MEAN and quit arguing semantics. You want everyone to get lost in your world of language and quite honestly no one here is buying into it. So say what you mean or go away.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 5, 2016 at 4:34 pm
(November 5, 2016 at 2:50 am)Astreja Wrote: (November 4, 2016 at 9:18 pm)Rosie_Rivets Wrote: My concept of god is that he is merely a figment of the human imagination, on par with other fanciful non-entities such as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Shall we work from there?
Sounds good to Me. Okay, Mariosep, we're going to go with the Rosie_Rivets god-concept instead of yours, as we seem to have consensus here for the "gods are imaginary" hypothesis, and no consensus for your hypothesis.
Hey, this was my concept in post #164/page 17. I want some cred or I may threaten to rage quit!
Um, this thread only. In concept only with history of ideas.
Actually I been trying to quit for awhile but keep experiencing the godfather effect.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
November 5, 2016 at 5:26 pm
(November 5, 2016 at 4:34 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (November 5, 2016 at 2:50 am)Astreja Wrote: Sounds good to Me. Okay, Mariosep, we're going to go with the Rosie_Rivets god-concept instead of yours, as we seem to have consensus here for the "gods are imaginary" hypothesis, and no consensus for your hypothesis.
Hey, this was my concept in post #164/page 17. I want some cred or I may threaten to rage quit!
Um, this thread only. In concept only with history of ideas.
Actually I been trying to quit for awhile but keep experiencing the godfather effect.
Well, it looks like Mariosep isn't going to start from that premise, anyway. We either accept his concept or nothing at all, it seems.
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