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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 11:26 am
(January 20, 2017 at 11:09 am)pocaracas Wrote: (January 20, 2017 at 11:02 am)JROHAN Wrote: My whole point has been:
You atheists have been brainwashed to believe gravity is not intelligently designed when you have nothing but your BLIND FAITH to back the premise up
You know?... that's not how rational thought works.
You don't start off with what things are not.
You go looking for what they are.
Gravity can "not be" many many many things. But it is only one thing.
If it is intelligently designed, science should eventually get there.
Until then, there is no reason to assume that it is.
Why do you believe that it is intelligently designed?
Because you can't understand the current physical understanding? Because it's not sufficient for your high standards?
Or because you are the one who's been brainwashed to find an intelligent designer in everything and look down on everyone else who is a tiny bit of intellectually honest with themselves and others around them?
You are too stupid to see that you place your faith in science
just as the blind faith religious place their faith in their religions
YOU WROTE:
If it is intelligently designed, science should eventually get there.
MY RESPONSE:
That's the type of statement the blind faith make
Can't you see that? Probably not
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 11:31 am
(January 20, 2017 at 11:26 am)JROHAN Wrote: (January 20, 2017 at 11:09 am)pocaracas Wrote: You know?... that's not how rational thought works.
You don't start off with what things are not.
You go looking for what they are.
Gravity can "not be" many many many things. But it is only one thing.
If it is intelligently designed, science should eventually get there.
Until then, there is no reason to assume that it is.
Why do you believe that it is intelligently designed?
Because you can't understand the current physical understanding? Because it's not sufficient for your high standards?
Or because you are the one who's been brainwashed to find an intelligent designer in everything and look down on everyone else who is a tiny bit of intellectually honest with themselves and others around them?
You are too stupid to see that you place your faith in science
just as the blind faith religious place their faith in their religions Ignoring some bits...
Can you imagine Why I put my faith in science?
Maybe it's because of historical track-record?
Maybe it's because it has provided me with a nice and comfy life?
(January 20, 2017 at 11:26 am)JROHAN Wrote: YOU WROTE:
If it is intelligently designed, science should eventually get there.
MY RESPONSE:
That's the type of statement the blind faith make
Can't you see that? Probably not
Again, you're not reading my words properly. "if" and "should" denote some uncertainty.
It is you who seem to be certain of the "intelligent design" notion. Why is that?
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 11:49 am
YOU WROTE:
Again, you're not reading my words properly. "if" and "should" denote some uncertainty.
MY RESPONSE:
Yes well, blind faith Christians often express uncertainty as to whether or not Jesus
will return within their lifetimes.
It's the same type of blind faith uncertainty
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 11:54 am
(January 20, 2017 at 11:49 am)JROHAN Wrote: YOU WROTE:
Again, you're not reading my words properly. "if" and "should" denote some uncertainty.
MY RESPONSE:
Yes well, blind faith Christians often express uncertainty as to whether or not Jesus
will return within their lifetimes.
It's the same type of blind faith uncertainty
So tell me, what's the historical track-record for that return?
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 12:13 pm
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As for myself, I leave the matter casually open.
My beliefs today may change dramatically tomorrow
YOU WROTE:
So tell me, what's the historical track-record for that return?
MY RESPONSE:
After having more than one near-death experience I would have to say
Jesus returns for each virtuous person when they die
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 12:18 pm
(January 20, 2017 at 12:13 pm)JROHAN Wrote: As for myself, I leave the matter casually open.
My beliefs today may change dramatically tomorrow
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 12:24 pm
Well, well.... you can be talked to.
Nice! 
(January 20, 2017 at 12:13 pm)JROHAN Wrote: As for myself, I leave the matter casually open.
My beliefs today may change dramatically tomorrow
The same happens in science. New evidence can overturn old theories.
Some have so much evidence nowadays that it would be difficult to overturn... instead, they'd most likely need a few adjustments.
(January 20, 2017 at 12:13 pm)JROHAN Wrote: YOU WROTE:
So tell me, what's the historical track-record for that return?
MY RESPONSE:
After having more than one near-death experience I would have to say
Jesus returns for each virtuous person when they die
Only after dying?
Not much that can convince the living, then, huh?
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 12:46 pm
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YOU WROTE:
The same happens in science. New evidence can overturn old theories.
MY RESPONSE:
If it were the same science would say something like:
'We currently believe Darwinian evolution to be a fact,
however, that may change tomorrow.'
Instead, they act as though they know for a fact
what they DO NOT know to be a fact!!!
I call that DISHONEST and IGNOBLE!!
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 1:00 pm
So this all boils down to a simple misunderstanding you have regarding science? Gee, you don't say.
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RE: What Do You Think?
January 20, 2017 at 1:05 pm
(January 20, 2017 at 11:02 am)JROHAN Wrote: My whole point has been:
You atheists have been brainwashed to believe
gravity is not intelligently designed
when you have nothing but your BLIND FAITH
to back the premise up
You have no point.
Assholes never have points.
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