Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border

[Amarok]

But I'm talking about people who are here illegally.  If they run over the border (or simply overstay a student/work visa) because they want to make some money to send back home to their impoverished family, and then are hired by a company at dirt-poor wages...they're illegal.  They don't get the citizenship study guides sent to them, they don't go to citizenship classes, and they sure as hell aren't going to appear anywhere near a courtroom to get some ID.

When I said 'process for becoming a citizen' I meant for illegals, should've clarified that.

Then come here lagally. There's a legal way to do it.

It's slow. And pot marked with unfair standards  that would never be demanded of natives .

[Aegon]

How is he going to make Mexico pay for it? By making us pay more for anything Mexico imports (spoiler alert: that's a lot).

Trump wants Mexican import tax to fund wall

President Trump will ask Congress to impose a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico to pay for a wall along the United States' southern border, the White House said Thursday.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer did not give out specific details about the new tax or explain how it would be implemented, but he said it could be included in a comprehensive tax reform package.

“We can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That’s really going to provide the funding,” Spicer told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Trump has said the wall would cost $8 billion, but independent estimates peg the price tag between $15 and $25 billion.

The announcement came after Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto announced he would not come to Washington for a meeting with Trump after the president said he would move forward with his plan to erect the wall — and make Mexico pay for it.

His move was interpreted as a sign Mexico will resist paying for the barrier.

It could have far-reaching consequences for American consumers and businesses while exacerbating tensions between the two neighboring countries.

The proposal, as explained by Spicer, appears to be similar to a controversial provision that would tax U.S. businesses’ imports included in a House Republican tax plan.

The so-called border adjustment provision is part of a broader plan to bring the corporate tax rate down from 35 percent to 20 percent.

"I think the president is using every tool available to him to make sure that, as we put this wall up, he honors his commitment he made to the American people that it's going to be paid for and that Mexico will pay for it," Rep. Tom Reed (R-N.Y.), a close Trump ally and member of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, told The Hill at the GOP retreat in Philadelphia.

"As we have been dealing on the committee on tax reform, one of the key components of tax reform is called border adjustability. That is a 20 percent tax on imports and a zero percent tax on exports.

"Anything that is going to promote American manufacturing, make American competitive, I'm going to be supportive of."

Trump previously dismissed the plan in an interview with The Wall Street Journal as being “too complicated.”

But he seemed to offer it his approval in an address to Republicans attending the retreat.

"We're working on a tax-reform bill that will reduce our trade deficits, increase American exports and will generate revenue from Mexico that will pay for the wall, if we decide to go that route," he said.

The plan could benefit exporters, such as U.S.-based aerospace companies, but hurt retailers and other American companies that manufacture goods overseas to sell in the U.S.

That could result in higher prices for American consumer goods.

It could also reduce the number of imports coming into the U.S., which would lessen the amount of revenue collected by the tax.

The spokesman said the White House has been “in close contact with both houses” of Congress about moving forward with the tax plan, which he said could eventually apply to other nations as well.

“Right now our country’s policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous,” Spicer said.

“It clearly provides the funding and does so in a way that the American taxpayer is wholly respected,” he said. “We are probably the only major country that doesn’t treat imports this way.”

[Amarok]

How is he going to make Mexico pay for it? By making us pay more for anything Mexico imports (spoiler alert: that's a lot).

Trump wants Mexican import tax to fund wall

President Trump will ask Congress to impose a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico to pay for a wall along the United States' southern border, the White House said Thursday.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer did not give out specific details about the new tax or explain how it would be implemented, but he said it could be included in a comprehensive tax reform package.

“We can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That’s really going to provide the funding,” Spicer told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Trump has said the wall would cost $8 billion, but independent estimates peg the price tag between $15 and $25 billion.

The announcement came after Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto announced he would not come to Washington for a meeting with Trump after the president said he would move forward with his plan to erect the wall — and make Mexico pay for it.

His move was interpreted as a sign Mexico will resist paying for the barrier.

It could have far-reaching consequences for American consumers and businesses while exacerbating tensions between the two neighboring countries.

The proposal, as explained by Spicer, appears to be similar to a controversial provision that would tax U.S. businesses’ imports included in a House Republican tax plan.

The so-called border adjustment provision is part of a broader plan to bring the corporate tax rate down from 35 percent to 20 percent.
 
"I think the president is using every tool available to him to make sure that, as we put this wall up, he honors his commitment he made to the American people that it's going to be paid for and that Mexico will pay for it," Rep. Tom Reed (R-N.Y.), a close Trump ally and member of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, told The Hill at the GOP retreat in Philadelphia.

"As we have been dealing on the committee on tax reform, one of the key components of tax reform is called border adjustability. That is a 20 percent tax on imports and a zero percent tax on exports.

"Anything that is going to promote American manufacturing, make American competitive, I'm going to be supportive of."

Trump previously dismissed the plan in an interview with The Wall Street Journal as being “too complicated.”

But he seemed to offer it his approval in an address to Republicans attending the retreat.

"We're working on a tax-reform bill that will reduce our trade deficits, increase American exports and will generate revenue from Mexico that will pay for the wall, if we decide to go that route," he said.

The plan could benefit exporters, such as U.S.-based aerospace companies, but hurt retailers and other American companies that manufacture goods overseas to sell in the U.S.

That could result in higher prices for American consumer goods.

It could also reduce the number of imports coming into the U.S., which would lessen the amount of revenue collected by the tax.

The spokesman said the White House has been “in close contact with both houses” of Congress about moving forward with the tax plan, which he said could eventually apply to other nations as well.

“Right now our country’s policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous,” Spicer said.

“It clearly provides the funding and does so in a way that the American taxpayer is wholly respected,” he said. “We are probably the only major country that doesn’t treat imports this way.”

It's like a loan shark making someone pay there debt by breaking there own kneecaps

[Catholic_Lady]

Then come here lagally. There's a legal way to do it.

It's slow. And pot marked with unfair standards  that would never be demanded of natives .

"It's slow" is really not a legitimate excuse to break the law unless you have some sort of life/death situation. Otherwise just be patient and wait, and do things the right way. I don't think this is an unreasonable request.  

If the standards are unfair, as you claim, then of course that needs to be looked at and changed if they really do turn out being unfair.

[The Grand Nudger]

"If", lol. Yup, real winner. Dead broke, can't feed your kids.
-"Wait patiently". For what...twenty years........

[Minimalist]

Or get shot by criminal gangs in El Salvador who want your kid to be a hooker for them.  Sure.  She can wait 10-15 years.

[Amarok]

It's slow. And pot marked with unfair standards  that would never be demanded of natives .

"It's slow" is really not a legitimate excuse to break the law unless you have some sort of life/death situation. Otherwise just be patient and wait, and do things the right way. I don't think this is an unreasonable request.  

If the standards are unfair, as you claim, then of course that needs to be looked at and changed if they really do turn out being unfair.

It is to me and patients isn't always a virtue as for the right way right for who?

To your second point no disagreement but until it's fair I side with  immigrant regardless of legality

[Catholic_Lady]

As I said earlier on in the thread.

People being unreasonable for the sake of sticking to a particular political side goes both ways.

And I don't care if you're liberal or conservative. I will call it out when warranted.

[Amarok]

As I said earlier on in the thread.

People being unreasonable for the sake of sticking to a particular political side goes both ways.

It's has political stance even if I were a conservative my position would be the same. And conservative by what standard?

Unreasonable?

[The Grand Nudger]

Apparently, basic human decency is limited to one particular political "side"...wonder which she had in mind?