Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders

[abaris]

Wow, really??

That's awful.

Why the surprise? Didn't he always say he would do so?

I can only shake my head at people not taking creatures like that at their word.

[Jackalope]

David Bier (libertarian immigration expert at the Cato Institute) doesn't think the executive order is legal: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opini...legal.html

Probably not. Will Congress do anything about it? Probably not. Will the Supreme Court usurp Congressional authority to the one meaningful thing - which they have no power to enforce anyways? Probably not.

[Catholic_Lady]

Wow, really??

That's awful.

Why the surprise? Didn't he always say he would do so?

I can only shake my head at people not taking creatures like that at their word.

I didn't realize he meant green card holders as well. I mean, everything is pretty awful as it is, but this new green card holder thing isn't even legal as far as I knew. That's a huge abuse of power along with everything else.

[Amarok]

Awful indeed

And the thing I hate most of all is when Dumpf  tries to push idea the west isn't helping Christians as much as Muslims which is bull . We want both out of that hell hole and away from drumpf's BFF Putin and his pet psychopath Assad.

[abaris]

I didn't realize he meant green card holders as well. I mean, everything is pretty awful as it is, but this new green card holder thing isn't even legal as far as I knew. That's a huge abuse of power along with everything else.

I always said, take him at his word. He will do whatever he can get away with. They always do, and that's the only thing that can be compared to Hitler. These shitstains live and thrive on radicalism. So they will do what they say.

[Jesster]

What was it he said or did in the last ~18 months that made you think he was in any way subtle or gave a fuck? :|

True enough. This just goes to show that everyone saying "but presidents never keep their promises anyway, so don't worry about it" were full of shit the whole time.

[Aegon]

Trump Visa Ban Also Applies to Citizens With Dual Nationality, State Department Says

Citizens of the seven countries identified by President Donald Trump for a 90-day visa ban who hold dual nationality also will be barred from entering the United States, the U.S. State Department said in a statement Saturday.

In a statement that the State Department is due to release, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, the 90-day visa moratorium extends beyond just citizens of Iraq, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Libya and Yemen.

“Travelers who have nationality or dual nationality of one of these countries will not be permitted for 90 days to enter the United States or be issued an immigrant or nonimmigrant visa,” the statement said. “Those nationals or dual nationals holding valid immigrant or nonimmigrant visas will not be permitted to enter the United States during this period.  Visa interviews will generally not be scheduled for nationals of these countries during this period.”

The dual-citizenship ban doesn’t apply to U.S. citizens who are also citizens of the seven nations singled out by Mr. Trump.

The State Department statement also said such restrictions don’t apply to people from those countries traveling on diplomatic visas.

The official said that the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and the U.S. consulate in Erbil have stopped accepting visa applications from Iraqi nationals until further notice, except for certain diplomatic exceptions.

The urgent steps come as State Department officials try to sort out how to implement Mr. Trump’s broadly-worded policy executive order. Officials said they received little information about the ban before it took effect from the Trump team. One described how a draft of the order was brought in unofficially to the State Department earlier this week to review before it took effect.

[abaris]

Trump Visa Ban Also Applies to Citizens With Dual Nationality, State Department Says

That's what the Nazis did in 1938/39. Polish/German nationals of jewish origin were pushed over the Polish border. Or rather into no mans land, since the Polish didn't want to take them either.

Boy, he's quick. Now wait for the total immigration ban on muslims. Can't be long now.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secur...ers-report

President Trump’s executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. also applies to green card holders from those countries, the Department of Homeland Security said Saturday.
 
"It will bar green card holders," acting DHS spokeswoman Gillian Christensen told Reuters.
 
Green cards serve as proof of an individual’s permanent legal residence in the U.S.
 
Trump signed an executive action Friday halting the country’s Syrian refugee resettlement program and barring people from certain Muslim-majority countries from traveling to the U.S. for 120 days.
 
The administration says the halt in the resettlement program is designed to give it time to tighten the vetting process for refugees. The order also gives Christian refugees priority in the resettlement process.
 
“If you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible and the reason that was so unfair, everybody was persecuted in all fairness, but they were chopping off the heads of everybody but more so the Christians,” Trump said in an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network on Friday. “And I thought it was very, very unfair,” he continued. “So we are going to help them.”

A Pew Research Center report found that the U.S. admitted nearly equal number of Muslim and Christian refugees in 2016.

As a candidate, Trump campaigned on a promise of cracking down on the country’s refugee program, arguing that terrorists could hide among refugees as a way of gaining entrance to the U.S.

At different points, he also called for a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the country and the creation of a Muslim registry.

Can somebody explain how the hell this is legal?

What's illegal about it?  The President's duty is to defend the country against foreign and domestic enemies.  He gets to decide who those enemies are.  So based upon his judgment he has identified a set of foreign enemies and he has taken steps to defend the nation against them.  He would be derelict in his primary duties if he did otherwise.

[Assimilate]

Not even a month in, it's only going to get worse.