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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:20 pm
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(January 28, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Jesster Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 1:33 pm)Aegon Wrote: Can somebody explain how the hell this is legal?
It shouldn't be. It's discrimination on the basis of religion. This is a major violation of human rights. If he had kept this to foreigners in general, I wouldn't be able to call him out as easily, but this is just too obvious at this point. Is he even trying to be subtle about this anymore, or does he just not care?
Not just that, but it may well fall afoul the ex post facto clause of the Constitution, if the courts interpret this action as one of legal consequence.
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:23 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm)Jesster Wrote: Nobody can be this dense. You could at least try to hide your trolling a little bit. You're not going to bait many people like this.
Oh, he's not trolling you. He really is that retarded.
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 7:23 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm)Jesster Wrote: Nobody can be this dense. You could at least try to hide your trolling a little bit. You're not going to bait many people like this.
Oh, he's not trolling you. He really is that retarded.
I don't know who you were referring to, but I guess this deserves a kudos anyway.
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm)abaris Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I'm waiting for the Constitutional Articles and Clauses that addresses immigration and who gets to say who our foreign and domestic enemies are. I like to learn new things.
Assuming you're capable of reading I'm quoting Orochi, who quoted Tiberius.
(January 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm)Orochi Wrote: 1.read back Tiberius already put up an article as to it's illegality
2. The 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause and all the Supreme court rulings there in
3. Congress trump doesn't get to just declare a country an enemy on whim
Now your turn
And might I also add as has been said before if this is about security why are countries that have a long history of terrorism not on the list .It clearly is not thus he's clearly not doing his supposed duty anyway
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:26 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm)abaris Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I'm waiting for the Constitutional Articles and Clauses that addresses immigration and who gets to say who our foreign and domestic enemies are. I like to learn new things.
Assuming you're capable of reading I'm quoting Orochi, who quoted Tiberius.
(January 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm)Orochi Wrote: 1.read back Tiberius already put up an article as to it's illegality
2. The 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause and all the Supreme court rulings there in
3. Congress trump doesn't get to just declare a country an enemy on whim
Now your turn
Listen, Trump was a businessman, he had investments from dubai, saudi and arab countries. Considered the outcomes of his biznesses with them ? Must be a personal vendetta, thought of it, against arabs ?
See, If I'm a muslim, we don't even want to send our kids, or even go to America, the land of the Kuffar and hollywood, as they say, so what's the point of banning muslims ? it shouldn't offend them ? No loss for us, but loss for them.
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:26 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm)abaris Wrote: I don't know who you were referring to, but I guess this deserves a kudos anyway.
That was aimed at Wyrd of Gawd.
(Aren't we all so happy he came back?)
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:26 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 7:23 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm)Jesster Wrote: Nobody can be this dense. You could at least try to hide your trolling a little bit. You're not going to bait many people like this.
Oh, he's not trolling you. He really is that retarded.
I was at least giving him a chance to be a troll. I can at least give them some level of respect. Now I can't even do that much. Either way, he's not worth arguing with. I'm not dragging myself down to that level.
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:27 pm
"Protect the country from terrorists" my ass. We all know that's not what this is about. And if that's really what he believes, he's even dumber than I thought he was (which I honestly didn't think would be possible).
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:29 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 7:15 pm)Jesster Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 7:11 pm)scififan Wrote: Will do (but why are americans so direct ? can't you guys be more polite ?)
Are you calling Americans impolite? Sheesh, you're so abrasive.
Welcome to the internet.
I've been called an american, and I've been called impolite too.
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RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
January 28, 2017 at 7:30 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 1:33 pm)Aegon Wrote: http://thehill.com/policy/national-secur...ers-report
Quote:President Trump’s executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. also applies to green card holders from those countries, the Department of Homeland Security said Saturday.
"It will bar green card holders," acting DHS spokeswoman Gillian Christensen told Reuters.
Green cards serve as proof of an individual’s permanent legal residence in the U.S.
Trump signed an executive action Friday halting the country’s Syrian refugee resettlement program and barring people from certain Muslim-majority countries from traveling to the U.S. for 120 days.
The administration says the halt in the resettlement program is designed to give it time to tighten the vetting process for refugees. The order also gives Christian refugees priority in the resettlement process.
“If you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible and the reason that was so unfair, everybody was persecuted in all fairness, but they were chopping off the heads of everybody but more so the Christians,” Trump said in an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network on Friday. “And I thought it was very, very unfair,” he continued. “So we are going to help them.”
A Pew Research Center report found that the U.S. admitted nearly equal number of Muslim and Christian refugees in 2016.
As a candidate, Trump campaigned on a promise of cracking down on the country’s refugee program, arguing that terrorists could hide among refugees as a way of gaining entrance to the U.S.
At different points, he also called for a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the country and the creation of a Muslim registry.
Can somebody explain how the hell this is legal?
Simple. He wants to do it, he's President, nobody's stopping him, therefore it's legal. Really, Trump's actions have made abundantly clear even before announcing his run for the presidency that he cares naught for the law, and now, he's not only one of the richest men on Earth, he's the Fucking President of the United States of Fucking America, so there's very little chance that he's changed for the better.
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