"I refuse to change my mind"

[account_inactive]

I'm pretty stubborn at times, but I try my best to consider other viewpoints and change if necessary.

[Huggy Bear]

Secondly, my signature has been permanently disabled after quoting some of the ridiculous arguments that certain atheists here have made, that should tell you all you need to know...

You know very well why.

Actually I don't.

[Harry Nevis]

There are many religious people who absolutely refuse to change their mind, some of them even call others who dont believe in their god and who claim to be open to being convinced a god exist closed minded.

So tell me, if I said, as an Atheist, that I refuse to change my mind, am I closed minded? If a religious person who agreed with you said they wouldn't change their mind, are they closed minded? What about religious people who disagree with you, are they closed minded?
The question is more aimed torwards religious people as you can probably tell.

If you think all the others who disagree with you are closed minded then what seperates your case from theirs?
Why in the first place would you refuse to change your mind about anything? That doesnt seem like an effective way to find truth, just clinging on to an answer and refusing to be convinced otherwise regardless of what we discover or see.

But how can you tell who is closed minded and who is not?

I like how you guys always discount the fact that maybe said religious person has seen sufficient evidence to justify their beliefs personally. Just because YOU haven't seen evidence doesn't mean none exists. Furthermore, how do you propose to change ones mind from a position of ignorance?

Justifying beliefs personally is easy.  They don't have to be rational or make sense if you don't care.  But that's not evidence for anyone else who sets the bar higher than "it feels right to me".

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There are many religious people who absolutely refuse to change their mind, some of them even call others who dont believe in their god and who claim to be open to being convinced a god exist closed minded.

So tell me, if I said, as an Atheist, that I refuse to change my mind, am I closed minded? If a religious person who agreed with you said they wouldn't change their mind, are they closed minded? What about religious people who disagree with you, are they closed minded?
The question is more aimed torwards religious people as you can probably tell.

If you think all the others who disagree with you are closed minded then what seperates your case from theirs?
Why in the first place would you refuse to change your mind about anything? That doesnt seem like an effective way to find truth, just clinging on to an answer and refusing to be convinced otherwise regardless of what we discover or see.

But how can you tell who is closed minded and who is not?

I'm having this as a back and forth with Drich at the moment. Apparently I'm a closed minded "Flat Earther" because I find his arguments unconvincing.
I have always said I am willing to have my mind changed by sufficiently strong evidence hey apparently you have to drink the koolaid to qualify as having an open mind.

Compared to Drich, you could just call yourself "minded" and come out on top.

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I'm having this as a back and forth with Drich at the moment. Apparently I'm a closed minded "Flat Earther" because I find his arguments unconvincing.
I have always said I am willing to have my mind changed by sufficiently strong evidence hey apparently you have to drink the koolaid to qualify as having an open mind.

The problem is, theists claim they can slam dunk, until you find out they are playing on an 8' basketball  hoop.

They lower their evidential requirements for their beliefs a lot lower than they would for other supernatural claims not within their specific theistic framework.

I've always wondered why more christians don't believe in witches, as there is a whole lot more "evidence" from the Salem Witch Trials on how they work, how to identify them and such than for their god.

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When?

I follow your posts pretty closely, and all I ever see is flawed philosophical arguments.

Really? Flawed philosophical arguments? Name one. It seems to me that's just a way for you to justify atheists taking all these L's.

First of all, I never present any arguments, I counter-argue, If those counter-arguments are flawed then they should be refuted easily. Instead we have a number of people who have me on ignore after getting that work.

Secondly, my signature has been permanently disabled after quoting some of the ridiculous arguments that certain atheists here have made, that should tell you all you need to know...

What do you mean 'quiet as a church mouse'? I've seen almost everyone here respond to your nonsense many times.

There are plenty of threads that have been quickly abandoned by atheists after being confronted with facts, If the facts were flawed in any way you'd think they'd be all over it.

Really? Facts? Name one.

[The Industrial Atheist]

If god's existence were made ridiculously obvious then I would believe. I suppose aliens with sufficently advanced technology could fool me.

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[Cyberman]

You know very well why.

Actually I don't.

It's been explained many times to you. I'm not going to be drawn into the same old argument with you. However the reality is that the decision that was taken is not what you insinuate. Please stop.

[Huggy Bear]

Actually I don't.

It's been explained many times to you. I'm not going to be drawn into the same old argument with you. However the reality is that the decision that was taken is not what you insinuate. Please stop.

*Sigh*

Nothing was ever explained... up until recently, quoting another member in your sig was never against the rules period.

[Cyberman]

Huggy, drop this. Now. I refuse to be drawn into your conspiracy fantasies.

[Huggy Bear]

I HAD it dropped until you decided to address me...

[Cyberman]

And I only addressed you to correct the insinuation you made. Which I have now done.

[Huggy Bear]

I'm not "insinuating".  You know full well I can back up what I'm saying, I've posted pm's before but guess what? There is a newly created rule against that too...

So now all of the sudden you've gotten bold and called me a liar knowing full well you'd have done no such thing if that new rule wasn't put in place.


BTW, don't "insinuate" that I'm lying and expect me to leave it at that.