What if Trump dies in office?

[Secular Elf]

I'm doubtful of the  theocracy part sure Pence probably faps to the idea every night but getting the hookers and blow liberation righties on board might be a challenge . One I don't think Pence is up for . As for him uniting the right I again don't think he has the strength to fight entropy of republican infighting.

You are underestimating Pence in particular and the Dominionists in general.  Dominionists have been slowly inserting themselves in our government for decades.  Their plan has been to cook the frog slowly,  but cook the frog nonetheless.  Now with the establishment of the Trump Regime and his placement of more Dominionists in Cabinet positions, such as Betsy DeVos, Rick Perry, Scott Pruitt, Nikki Haley, as well as so-called Vice President Pence, Dominionists are now positioned to turn the government into a fascist Christian state.  That is exactly what we are seeing being established before our very eyes.  This is what I have been warning people for years about mixing religion with government.  Mike Pence told a crowd that he was "a Christian, a Conservative, and a Republican, in that order."  He left out American.

Some of them are trying to be slick about it.  Mike Pence is for now keeping his religious cards close to his vest:

“My faith,” Pence told me in 2012, “has continued to be what I hope is the most important thing in my life.” Pence’s beliefs have shifted at least twice—from his family’s Catholicism to an idiosyncratic evangelical Christianity, and from that to a more hardened and ideological version of the same. If, as he insists, faith does indeed order his life, why did he stop being so open about it? Why strip the evangelizing from his evangelicalism?

Good luck getting Pence to comment on that. The easiest answer seems to be that he decided that as his political ambitions grew his public religiosity needed to shrink. There are plenty of politicians who’ve made this same calculation, but few have tried to solve it with Pence’s baggage—or with his bumbling approach. Recall the governor’s infamous appearance on ABC’s This Week in which he tried to defend the RFRA. When George Stephanopoulos asked him if the law licensed discrimination, Pence offered abstract and illogical defenses instead of addressing what most people, whether for or against, saw as the RFRA’s true purpose—an extra defense for Christians who felt under attack by rapidly liberalizing attitudes toward LGBT rights.

But Mike Pence, a man with presidential dreams, could no longer say that. And so the polished communicator simply melted down. Even now, as he starts the biggest role of his political life, Pence still doesn’t know how to receive these questions other than by ducking. He’s always been a better idealist than a careerist. That should make for an interesting marriage with Donald Trump.

Where is Mike Pence's Faith? http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...liefs.html


What is more important to understand is that this current new government is brimming over with Dominionists.  Trump may have used the Dominionists to garner the Evangelical vote, but in the end the Dominionists will use Trump to help them gain power and control of the Republic and kill it.

Empire Files: Chris Hedges & Abby Martin--Trump, Fascism, and the Christian Right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP5gjrh-3Ew

Keith Olbermann explains a Suprisingly Easy Way to Get Rid of Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnnj_YjdJgs

The only problem with that, while in the rules of the Constitution, it leaves us with a theocratic inclined President.  The Dominionists win.

[Minimalist]

Nope because the congress won't know what it wants or what it's doing.

That won't stop them from doing it.

[Amarok]

As for him uniting the right I again don't think he has the strength to fight entropy of republican infighting.

Why do you constantly compare it to the Obama years? Pence is very much in agreement with Republican positions. Bot on the federal as the state level. There will be religious laws pushed through state houses without the union of the supreme court opposing them. There will be a rollback on civil and social liberties on the federal as well as the state level. Virtually noone will stand up to fight against something like that. Noone. It's on the agenda for quite some time now. And now's an opportunity to turn it into reality.

There will be no opposition. Goes for Trump too, obviously. And I am curious as to why you assume that there would be infighting over issues most republican representatives agree on.

I compare it to the Obama years because there position in terms of power may have changed but the people and there personnel quirks have not. It's not policies that divide the Republicans it's ego  and personalities. And yes on they get things sometimes but never is it without multiple people trying to take credit for it or blaming someone else when it fails . Which is there weakness.  They want the same thing ultimately but they will never let the someone else get the fox news interview to boast about it  .

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Nope because the congress won't know what it wants or what it's doing.

That won't stop them from doing it.

Without constantly undermining each other and tripping there own feet and massive dick measuring contests I beg the differ but your free to disagree . Ultimately the republicans suck and we need to replace them. Not become republicans a squabble .Eyes on the prize my friends

[Won2blv]

You really want to celebrate Pence?

I'm far less worried about Pence and here's why. He lacks the personality to hype up Trumps moron followers. And is far easier to pressure by more sane Republicans . Put it this way if trumps inner circle were the Nazi party Steve Bannon would be Joseph Goebbels .  While Pence would be Martin Bormann a facile toady who would come in at the regimes collapsing point despite having great legal power.

You know that Pence started his career as a radio talk show host right? He has all the necessary skills to use newspeak

[Amarok]

I'm doubtful of the  theocracy part sure Pence probably faps to the idea every night but getting the hookers and blow liberation righties on board might be a challenge . One I don't think Pence is up for . As for him uniting the right I again don't think he has the strength to fight entropy of republican infighting.

You are underestimating Pence in particular and the Dominionists in general.  Dominionists have been slowly inserting themselves in our government for decades.  Their plan has been to cook the frog slowly,  but cook the frog nonetheless.  Now with the establishment of the Trump Regime and his placement of more Dominionists in Cabinet positions, such as Betsy DeVos, Rick Perry, Scott Pruitt, Nikki Haley, as well as so-called Vice President Pence, Dominionists are now positioned to turn the government into a fascist Christian state.  That is exactly what we are seeing being established before our very eyes.  This is what I have been warning people for years about mixing religion with government.  Mike Pence told a crowd that he was "a Christian, a Conservative, and a Republican, in that order."  He left out American.

Some of them are trying to be slick about it.  Mike Pence is for now keeping his religious cards close to his vest:

“My faith,” Pence told me in 2012, “has continued to be what I hope is the most important thing in my life.” Pence’s beliefs have shifted at least twice—from his family’s Catholicism to an idiosyncratic evangelical Christianity, and from that to a more hardened and ideological version of the same. If, as he insists, faith does indeed order his life, why did he stop being so open about it? Why strip the evangelizing from his evangelicalism?

Good luck getting Pence to comment on that. The easiest answer seems to be that he decided that as his political ambitions grew his public religiosity needed to shrink. There are plenty of politicians who’ve made this same calculation, but few have tried to solve it with Pence’s baggage—or with his bumbling approach. Recall the governor’s infamous appearance on ABC’s This Week in which he tried to defend the RFRA. When George Stephanopoulos asked him if the law licensed discrimination, Pence offered abstract and illogical defenses instead of addressing what most people, whether for or against, saw as the RFRA’s true purpose—an extra defense for Christians who felt under attack by rapidly liberalizing attitudes toward LGBT rights.

But Mike Pence, a man with presidential dreams, could no longer say that. And so the polished communicator simply melted down. Even now, as he starts the biggest role of his political life, Pence still doesn’t know how to receive these questions other than by ducking. He’s always been a better idealist than a careerist. That should make for an interesting marriage with Donald Trump.

Where is Mike Pence's Faith? http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...liefs.html


What is more important to understand is that this current new government is brimming over with Dominionists.  Trump may have used the Dominionists to garner the Evangelical vote, but in the end the Dominionists will use Trump to help them gain power and control of the Republic and kill it.

Empire Files: Chris Hedges & Abby Martin--Trump, Fascism, and the Christian Right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP5gjrh-3Ew

Keith Olbermann explains a Suprisingly Easy Way to Get Rid of Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnnj_YjdJgs

The only problem with that, while in the rules of the Constitution, it leaves us with a theocratic inclined President.  The Dominionists win.

I don't think I am even the Dominionists really have there shit together. They all agree they want Christian domination but they want themselves as Ameripope and not those less worthy heretics or lesser believers. Or it will be about who wants power alone and the religious bullshit is just pretense for personal power. And thus they will step all over each other.

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I'm far less worried about Pence and here's why. He lacks the personality to hype up Trumps moron followers. And is far easier to pressure by more sane Republicans . Put it this way if trumps inner circle were the Nazi party Steve Bannon would be Joseph Goebbels .  While Pence would be Martin Bormann a facile toady who would come in at the regimes collapsing point despite having great legal power.

You know that Pence started his career as a radio talk show host right? He has all the necessary skills to use newspeak

. And if anytime I have heard him speak is any indication I can see why he quite radio

[abaris]

There's quite a lot of things I usually agree with you, Orochi. This isn't one of them. Establisment republicans would have less to disagree with than they have with Trump.

[Amarok]

There's quite a lot of things I usually agree with you, Orochi. This isn't one of them. Establisment republicans would have less to disagree with than they have with Trump.

Indeed and I find myself in agreement with you most of the time but not on this . Establishment republicans may not hate each other as much as they hate Trump. But they hate each other on a personal and ego level  more then enough to fuck themselves over. And dash there agenda on the rocks.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Trump is dangerous because he connects with republican voters. Pence is dangerous because he has connections with republican congressmen.

[Nay_Sayer]

Besides me throwing a block party?

A collective sigh of relief I imagine.

[Amarok]

Trump is dangerous because he connects with republican voters. Pence is dangerous because he has connections with republican congressmen.

Trump is dangerous also because he can motivate them to action

Pence has connections but even more rivalries and burnt bridges