The Argument for Islam is very Simple:

[Jesster]

Now MK is chanting. Someone really should check up on him.

[WinterHold]

O beautiful One (Al-Hussain)
Foreseen through heart's ears,
Seeing the revelation as it's meant to be,
You knew the light of Islam the world would not see,
They would know things like we cannot drink beer,
But not the justice, peace, and enlightenment meant for all humanity,
They would know we are to eat halal,
Not eat pork and that our women must wear the Hijaab,
That we aren't allowed to dance and have a ball,
But not understand the reasons at all,
You knew you were most probably our last chance,
That if none of the nine leaders from your offspring were supported as they are meant to be supported,
The connection would not be established,
The vision of Quran distorted,
It's pages urinated by dark magic on the hearts,
Spoken and recited east and west,
The world would never know,
The justice that was best,
Had you only been loved,
Accepted and recognized,
You saw the light of Islam fading,
As you were killed,
You took a risk,
In hope to stop this tragedy,
You saw it all, the chaos,
The likes of Trump coming to power,
The sanctions, the new world order
You knew the Illuminati very well,
The killers of the Prophets of old,
It's no conspiracy theory to me,
I will either die young or see a long life unfold,
Or something between that who knows?
My help I promise,
You once said "Is there a helper who can help us!".
I am at your service,
So empower my sword of my soul, 
With rains from your sword,
And write words on it, that open thousand of the other words,
And help me help you,
And your great grandson,
Save this world from the darkness that the dark one wishes to unleash to humanity,
Help me be a helper of the book,
That will usher hope, be a mercy, and be the cure!
At your service O Forever King and Leader, O beautiful One, O Hussain!

Just..

I always thought this scene was creepy. Dark magic and demons are just nasty. So they like urine? and some say nails and hair; too. Poop also. So you can make a spell by pooping in a jar, putting hair inside it, and pray to Lucifer.

Then you can do the spider crawl and scare the enemies of Ali.

Do you know, that some even say, demons live in ceilings? It's so creepy. So it's like you look up, then there !
But also:





Close the lights. Watch.
Do you see that?

THERE!
Exactly..

7 days.......

Now; reality. 

The world is a bad place; MK. The strong bully and chop the weak. People love to copy others, just to get a feeling of "belonging". Tribes, nations, cults, gangs, you name it.

They kill instead of giving; bomb instead of talking. Look in the skies. Planets burn, stars fall, radiations burn us.

The solution is not the dead. not to seek what died. 
The solution is right there; inside us.

We give
We forgive
We build
We pray

I didn't kill Ali. Hussain wasn't my childhood friend. I don't urinate on holy books. I don't go bomb for the sake of mere belonging.

[Minimalist]

Or maybe that an actual leader arose from that community.

If someone presented evidence for that hypothesis I would certainly consider it.  The simple fact is that the bullshit written about "mohammed" dates from the same 80-100 year period after his supposed death that we see with 'jesus.'  And jesus is phony shit, too.

[Mystic]

Atlas, I posted this somewhere else, but's relevant to you:


Is it so bad that God blessed humanity with a chosen family like he did in the past?

Is it so hard to rely on God for guidance and try to get connected to a mystic link beyond our understanding?

Is is so bad to investigate and seek insight from the Twelve Streams of Mohammad's covenant, and not mix in relying on other streams which are full of pollution for insight?

Is it so bad to believe God can put enough leaders to preserve the teachings of Islam if we don't mix with their leadership and authority others?

Is it so bad to be connected to a leader and guide from God that can empower our sword and help us in ways we do not understand?

Is it so bad that God blesses us through the prayers of an intercessor that is dear to him and knows humans and Jinn more then they know themselves, and makes a mercy to humanity and Jinn?

I don't understand you guys. I don't.

[Jesster]

I don't understand you guys. I don't.

The feeling is mutual. We're not the ones trying to pressure you into converting, though.

[brewer]

O beautiful One (Al-Hussain)
Foreseen through heart's ears,
Seeing the revelation as it's meant to be,
You knew the light of Islam the world would not see,
They would know things like we cannot drink beer,
But not the justice, peace, and enlightenment meant for all humanity,
They would know we are to eat halal,
Not eat pork and that our women must wear the Hijaab,
That we aren't allowed to dance and have a ball,
But not understand the reasons at all,
You knew you were most probably our last chance,
That if none of the nine leaders from your offspring were supported as they are meant to be supported,
The connection would not be established,
The vision of Quran distorted,
It's pages urinated by dark magic on the hearts,
Spoken and recited east and west,
The world would never know,
The justice that was best,
Had you only been loved,
Accepted and recognized,
You saw the light of Islam fading,
As you were killed,
You took a risk,
In hope to stop this tragedy,
You saw it all, the chaos,
The likes of Trump coming to power,
The sanctions, the new world order
You knew the Illuminati very well,
The killers of the Prophets of old,
It's no conspiracy theory to me,
I will either die young or see a long life unfold,
Or something between that who knows?
My help I promise,
You once said "Is there a helper who can help us!".
I am at your service,
So empower my sword of my soul, 
With rains from your sword,
And write words on it, that open thousand of the other words,
And help me help you,
And your great grandson,
Save this world from the darkness that the dark one wishes to unleash to humanity,
Help me be a helper of the book,
That will usher hope, be a mercy, and be the cure!
At your service O Forever King and Leader, O beautiful One, O Hussain!

Have you tried this out at one of your college gatherings or a street corner? Maybe saying your beliefs in public will give you a better indication of it's effect. Heck, try it in a mosque as a first run, get some feedback.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

On the futility of arguing with religious people:





Boru

[Minimalist]

Religion is more like this....

[Simon Moon]

Atlas, I posted this somewhere else, but's relevant to you:


Is it so bad that God blessed humanity with a chosen family like he did in the past?

Is it so hard to rely on God for guidance and try to get connected to a mystic link beyond our understanding?

Is is so bad to investigate and seek insight from the Twelve Streams of Mohammad's covenant, and not mix in relying on other streams which are full of pollution for insight?

Is it so bad to believe God can put enough leaders to preserve the teachings of Islam if we don't mix with their leadership and authority others?

Is it so bad to be connected to a leader and guide from God that can empower our sword and help us in ways we do not understand?

Is it so bad that God blesses us through the prayers of an intercessor that is dear to him and knows humans and Jinn more then they know themselves, and makes a mercy to humanity and Jinn?

I don't understand you guys. I don't.

Not sure what you don't understand?

You are asking us about attributes of a god that you haven't even got close to providing evidence for its existence.

All you continue to do, is provide one flawed argument after another.

[WinterHold]

Atlas, I posted this somewhere else, but's relevant to you:


Is it so bad that God blessed humanity with a chosen family like he did in the past?

Yes. It is so unjust. 
Like a Mafia ? Isn't that opening the door for all kinds of cheating?
If I'm chosen since birth, then the whole system of justice falls. Everything I do is holy. 
What's the point?

Is it so hard to rely on God for guidance and try to get connected to a mystic link beyond our understanding?

An honest God doesn't need "Mystic" links.

Is is so bad to investigate and seek insight from the Twelve Streams of Mohammad's covenant, and not mix in relying on other streams which are full of pollution for insight?

Yes. God sent down his word already. So the Quran, against human sources?
I pick the Quran.
And there is no between. Mixing a holy book with human sources is just your entrance to Greek mythology.

Is it so bad to believe God can put enough leaders to preserve the teachings of Islam if we don't mix with their leadership and authority others?

Yes. It is bad.
A God that can't preserve his own message is not worthy.
You know, a bad son or daughter can do all kinds of nasty stuff with this kind of "since birth guidance".
That's the problem of the Middle East. Every two minutes a bloody warlord come scream like an idiot that he's the chosen one.
Marines snipe him out (or infiltrate his gang), take oil, then eat pork steak in America.

Is it so bad to be connected to a leader and guide from God that can empower our sword and help us in ways we do not understand?

If you mean a "Prophet" then I agree.
But Mohammed is the last Prophet ?
Sura 33
( 40 )   Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah, of all things, Knowing.

Is it so bad that God blesses us through the prayers of an intercessor that is dear to him and knows humans and Jinn more then they know themselves, and makes a mercy to humanity and Jinn?

Yes. A God who acts like a CEO is not worthy.
He should hear me.
Sura 2
( 186 )   And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided.

So nobody is needed. God is near, he's everywhere.
He hears me. Ali is not needed. Nobody is needed.

I don't understand you guys. I don't.

Me too.