The New Testament is also against homosexuality and other forms of sexual immorality. It says that people who engage in sexual immorality won't get into the golden cube. Therefore they are just wasting their time going to church unless they repent. Paul said so in 1 Corinthians 6:9-20.
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Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
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Paul has a history of contradicting Jesus without authorization.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (June 25, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The New Testament is also against homosexuality and other forms of sexual immorality. It says that people who engage in sexual immorality won't get into the golden cube. Therefore they are just wasting their time going to church unless they repent. Paul said so in 1 Corinthians 6:9-20. And yet there are so many who think accepting salvation is the only requirement...says a lot about their sense of morality.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
--- There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views. 
I'm with the Christians on this one. Not the gay-beaters-- I mean, those who actually try to model themselves after the person described in the NT.
He said plenty of things against hypocrisy, against intolerance, and so on. I also think it's fine to think homosexuality is strange, or wrong, or whatever-- so long as it's understood that you don't get any say in how they live their lives.  (June 25, 2017 at 11:21 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Paul has a history of contradicting Jesus without authorization. This may be a non sequitor (and maybe ignorant on my part... but if so, so be it) but it has a slight link in my mind to what you're saying; what I don't get is why Protestants see the Bible as infallible when it was compiled by Catholics? Ie Catholics believe the pope is infallible, and all his choices, but Protestants do not, so if the Bible was compiled on papal authority as it were (which I don't know - hence my ignorance... ie I've heard K use the term 'proto-Catholics' so I don't know how different it was back then), why is it considered infallible by Protestants? The tenuous connection to what you were saying is that given that the approved version of the Bible is somewhat arbitrary... it could have been anything... and since Protestants don't appear to have any reason to get behind a Catholic compiled Bible, Paul is just one bloke who managed to get himself selected to get into the Bible, but it could have been anyone. Sorry if that was a completely pointless thought dump, but I'm having trouble articulating for you (and myself) what my point is... but it's in there somewhere 
The Protestants chucked some of the especially fucked up Catholic stuff like the Book of Tobit, and some others . . .
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
(June 25, 2017 at 11:52 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm with the Christians on this one. Not the gay-beaters-- I mean, those who actually try to model themselves after the person described in the NT. And practiced both of them among other objectionable things. One of those little inconvenient truths that people try to sweep under the rug. That's why it's a really, really shitty idea to model oneself after a person instead of coming up with a decent moral system on one's own. And why no one who claims to do this deserves one tiny iota of respect for it.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
--- There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views. (June 25, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The New Testament is also against homosexuality and other forms of sexual immorality. It says that people who engage in sexual immorality won't get into the golden cube. Therefore they are just wasting their time going to church unless they repent. Paul said so in 1 Corinthians 6:9-20. yet they really luv the OT phrasing of the prohibition . . . The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
(June 26, 2017 at 12:01 am)vorlon13 Wrote: The Protestants chucked some of the especially fucked up Catholic stuff like the Book of Tobit, and some others . . . Really? So they re-edited it as it were? They didn't add anything though? If not, it makes me think of 'lossy compression'... eg JPEGs... each successive saving gets worse quality unless you go back to the original Don't mind me, I'm tired and about to go to bed... so kind of talking a bit 'out there' at the moment 
(June 26, 2017 at 12:05 am)Astonished Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 11:52 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm with the Christians on this one. Not the gay-beaters-- I mean, those who actually try to model themselves after the person described in the NT. I don't want to defend the Biblical Jesus. But I would say if most Christians were actually trying to be a lot more like he was, we'd all be better off. Bombing countries full of brown people or beating up homosexual men is infinitely less better a solution to issues of contention than turning the other cheek and refusing to cast the first stone. |
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