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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 12:36 am
(June 26, 2017 at 12:24 am)bennyboy Wrote: (June 26, 2017 at 12:05 am)Astonished Wrote: And practiced both of them among other objectionable things. One of those little inconvenient truths that people try to sweep under the rug. That's why it's a really, really shitty idea to model oneself after a person instead of coming up with a decent moral system on one's own. And why no one who claims to do this deserves one tiny iota of respect for it.
I don't want to defend the Biblical Jesus. But I would say if most Christians were actually trying to be a lot more like he was, we'd all be better off. Bombing countries full of brown people or beating up homosexual men is infinitely less better a solution to issues of contention than turning the other cheek and refusing to cast the first stone.
And I'm trying to get you to understand, putting the man on a pedestal is a fucking mistake. Take the good ideas, discard the shitty ones, give the hypocritical a-hole the middle finger for pretending to be more than he was and tricking people, and pat yourself on the back for being smart enough to figure out to do that instead. And don't backpedal and say you're not defending the bastard if you're still saying people should emulate him. That's the whole problem in the first place! Not only is the bible a load of shit in the first place, but people have managed to cobble together a completely fabricated version of it in their minds from something already painfully obviously fictional. That's such a disconnect from reality, that's like...16 walls. How is it healthy to lie to oneself about the nature of one's (misplaced) idol? Not to mention idolizing a person is a horrendous idea in the first place (never meet your heroes, right?). If he was completely perfect in every way that would still be a terrible idea because you'd be imposing unrealistic expectations upon yourself. Even Mary Poppins ain't nothin' to idolize.
People give themselves too little credit and damage their own self-esteem by tying it up in this nonsensical methodology. Only by emancipating themselves from this backward way of thinking can they evolve and reach their full potential. And let's not even forget that even the 'good' teachings of Jeebus are hopelessly naive in most cases (turn the other cheek? I tried that and got knifed!) so you can't even call him an intelligent person much less perfectly ethically upstanding. I'm not going to say it myself, but leave it to someone I respect more than the bastard son of a bastard god:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v_0wAIM_Ks
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 12:38 am
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Yeah, I wonder what the world would be like if Christianity gave more weight to what Jesus said... the words in red as it were... than anything else in the Bible... used his words to override contradictory stuff. Very different I'd imagine.
Eta: that was to Benny.
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 12:47 am
(June 25, 2017 at 11:36 pm)Astonished Wrote: (June 25, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The New Testament is also against homosexuality and other forms of sexual immorality. It says that people who engage in sexual immorality won't get into the golden cube. Therefore they are just wasting their time going to church unless they repent. Paul said so in 1 Corinthians 6:9-20.
And yet there are so many who think accepting salvation is the only requirement...says a lot about their sense of morality.
well, you're right up to the point you stop thinking about it
see, accepting salvation has CONSEQUENCES !!
Praise JESUS !!
Once you accept Salvation, you won't want or be able to sin anymore !!
Remember when Jesus told the woman that was almost stoned to death by the mob to go and sin no more? It's just like that. She experienced Salvation direct from Jesus, and then went on and sinned no more.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 12:50 am
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A Redactionist Christology. 
Red Letter Christians are a thing...though, it seems like they're not as credible as they once were.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-campo...86887.html
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 12:52 am
(June 26, 2017 at 12:47 am)vorlon13 Wrote: (June 25, 2017 at 11:36 pm)Astonished Wrote: And yet there are so many who think accepting salvation is the only requirement...says a lot about their sense of morality.
well, you're right up to the point you stop thinking about it
see, accepting salvation has CONSEQUENCES !!
Praise JESUS !!
Once you accept Salvation, you won't want or be able to sin anymore !!
Remember when Jesus told the woman that was almost stoned to death by the mob to go and sin no more? It's just like that. She experienced Salvation direct from Jesus, and then went on and sinned no more.
Is anyone really gullible enough to believe she sinned no more? I mean, coveting is a sin and we literally can't NOT covet. That was probably the biggest tip-off to young me that the whole thing was horseshit.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 12:56 am
you're disputing Jesus there
He wouldn't have gone to the bother with the fore knowledge He would fail
And if 100% pure unadulterated Jesus doesn't have the power to effect Salvation, according to YOU, then what do we have for a Savior ??
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 12:59 am
(June 26, 2017 at 12:52 am)Astonished Wrote: Is anyone really gullible enough to believe she sinned no more? I mean, coveting is a sin and we literally can't NOT covet. That was probably the biggest tip-off to young me that the whole thing was horseshit.
Though shalt not covet they neighbors ass is going to go down in the history books of unfortunate innuendo, I think.
Cmon, Christ, I can't help it...you've seen that ass, hell..... you -made- that ass!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 1:01 am
(June 26, 2017 at 12:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: (June 26, 2017 at 12:52 am)Astonished Wrote: Is anyone really gullible enough to believe she sinned no more? I mean, coveting is a sin and we literally can't NOT covet. That was probably the biggest tip-off to young me that the whole thing was horseshit.
Though shalt not covet they neighbors ass is going to go down in the history books of unfortunate innuendo, I think.
Cmon, Christ, I can't help it...you've seen that ass, hell..... you -made- that ass!
I mean, literally, if she dropped dead the moment he finished that sentence, she would have still committed at least one sin before her light switch went all the way off. I don't trust anything that puts such unrealistic expectations on people or intentionally stacks the deck like that. And I was a child when I figured this out.
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 1:05 am
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The idea must have been to reduce the amount of "coveting" that led to internecine squabbles.....but, you know, clay tablets were in short supply, semi-literate scribes were thin on the ground....and whomever was putting this shit together could only afford to post so many characters....
So we end up with that.
So much of the strangeness of religion can be explained by asinine shit like that. You know? Un-profound..just a budget restriction on some poor nutter somewhen.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Tell Me Again How Great Fucking Xtians Are
June 26, 2017 at 1:14 am
(June 26, 2017 at 12:50 am)Khemikal Wrote: A Redactionist Christology.
Red Letter Christians are a thing...though, it seems like they're not as credible as they once were.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-campo...86887.html
Thanks, that's very interesting... but it shouldn't be too much to ask for a little bit of Jesus-bias in Christianity To start from Jesus and work out as it were
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