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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 14, 2017 at 11:23 pm
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(June 14, 2017 at 8:01 pm)A Theist Wrote: (June 14, 2017 at 7:32 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: Well before you make an assumption, why not let the courts decide if it was indeed targeting. Bullshit. There's no question that this leftist shooter was politically motivated in targeting Republicans, given his railings against Trump and Republicans on his Facebook page, plus the fact that he asked a congressman whether those on the ball field were Republicans just prior to his shooting at them. Nope, no question. So, yet another domestic terrorist, then?
(June 14, 2017 at 8:11 pm)A Theist Wrote: (June 14, 2017 at 7:56 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Indeed, seems like there's shooters from all sides of the political spectrum. Sounds to me like your country could do with some gun control. If someone is determined to kill people there's many other ways to do so, as Timothy McVeigh, the Boston Marathon bombers, or even the terrorists who use trucks to run over people have proven. Gun control isn't going to stop determined murderers and assassins from killing people. Agreed, probably would have stopped this guy though.
(June 14, 2017 at 9:47 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (June 14, 2017 at 7:49 pm)Aegon Wrote: I was about to say, "Uh, sounds like you want gun control... what else would protect them from gun-toting assassins?"
This gun toting hay seed thinks it's damn time we get some stricter gun control laws.
We could get away with stricter enforcement of current law. This one, for example..could have been flagged by past domestic abuse charges under some current state laws - virginia has it's own state law that approaches this. The data can be and is created, we just don't act on it. We don't investigate the many blips our system can already provide..in the registry we federally create - at every legal point of sale that isn't a person's livingroom. The laws and the monitering systems and the legal justification are all already in place. What we require is will.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 14, 2017 at 11:33 pm
(June 14, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hey how bout we just feel for the victims and their families, condemn the attack, and call it a day?? Nah...
And let a wonderful opportunity like this go to waste?
You're new to American politics, aren't you?
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 14, 2017 at 11:36 pm
Well, even if Steve Scalise has made abundantly clear he has horrible views, I still hope he improves, even if it's for no other reason than to make sure he doesn't end up with the same honour of dying in the line of duty as Leo Ryan did.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 14, 2017 at 11:51 pm
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(June 14, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hey how bout we just feel for the victims and their families, condemn the attack, and call it a day?? Nah...
And then we can do the same thing the next time and the next time and the next time and the next time and the next....................................................
It's not like Hollywood, gun nuts.
You don't say "Ooh, they got me." High-velocity bullets can do some real damage.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/rep-scal...al-report/
Quote:“The bullet travelled across his pelvis, fracturing bones, injuring internal organs and causing severe bleeding,” the medical staff explained. “He underwent immediate surgery, and an additional procedure to stop bleeding,” after going into shock while be transported by helicopter to the medical center.
The hospital also reported Scalise had received multiple units of blood and will be requiring additional operations.
Additional reports claim the rifle used was a Soviet style SKS rifle, which commonly fires full metal jacket bullets at over 2,300 feet per second.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 1:13 am
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"Soviet style SKS" usually means norinco. Cheap chinese guns being used by american domestic terrorists. Teehee.
Oddly enough, it was exempt from bans because neither it (nor it's chinese high cap magazines) fit the legal definition of an assault weapon or a detachable magazine (despite being....detachable). A main battle rifle, field tested......but -not- the subject of even our most recent broad restrictions.
Imagine that. Might explain why they were imported by the millions and go for $100USD
I own one. I find restrictions that make my 22 squirrel gun illegal but leave my sks in it's own safe space are......misguided?
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 1:50 am
Not by gun nuts. They know exactly what they are doing.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 1:54 am
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Sure, and I assume by that you mean the willful finagling (I could totally use ratfucking here, joy) of proposed gun bills until they collapse into senselessness saddled with an inability to be enforced? I think that gun nuts (of the political stripe) very intentionally do that to corner their ideological opposition.
EG - federal law says crazy can't have a gun.
Nutters say nutty things 'bout Bammy coming to take our guns!
Nutters write state laws such that crazy can, indeed, have a gun.
Gun control advocates propose a law
Nutters say nutty things 'bout Bammy coming to take our guns!
Nutters get concessions in said laws.
They know that they're milking the yall qaeda base. They do it to score a political victory at the expense of the entire gun control affair's legitimacy (bonus) - and at the expense of the american people..in dollars and lives. But hey, you know, those seats are real fuckin valuable. Gotta do what it takes to keep em.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 5:30 am
It's the same thing all over and over and over again!
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 5:37 am
(June 14, 2017 at 7:28 pm)A Theist Wrote: (June 14, 2017 at 5:50 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: But the Republicans of today are snowflakes. They obviously need to be protected from online meanies. ...and Republicans need to be protected from gun toting leftwing assassins who target them for murder, as was the targeting and shooting of Rep. Scalise.
Wasn't it just last year that sen. Paul Ryan tweeted that the 2nd amendment existed so the people could attack the government?
Has that changed now that the republithugs are the government?
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 6:36 am
(June 14, 2017 at 8:56 pm)A Theist Wrote: (June 14, 2017 at 8:20 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: So.....
The next time you see one of your deplorable buddies target a democratic politician, I fully expect you to share that exact same sentiment about your crazed dem-hating pal.
Or does that not ever happen in your delusional little world? No less deplorable than the hateful and violent vitriol that comes from the left these days. It's the kind of leftist vitriol that's manifested in the rise in campus violence to shut down conservative speakers, or like Kathy Griffin holding up a facsimile of a bloody severed head of President Trump and the Shakespeare In The Park play depicting a Trump look alike as Julius Caesar being stabbed to death before a cheering audience. It's this kind of unbridled hatefulness from the left that influences acts of violence against those they disagree with.
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