The Official "Damned Trump" Thread

[The Grand Nudger]

What the president did is illegal, and the administration demonstrated it's knowledge of that fact by burying any evidence of the events. Then they lied about the events occurring. Then they lied about their involvement in those events, which did occur.

[Fireball]

I see elsewhere that the claim is that the chump made it up to show how corrupt the media and Dems are. There's just no bottom to the pit of lies that these jokers dredge up.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

There's a scene in Kung Fu Panda where Master Shifu walks into an otherwise vacant room and sees Po standing in a pile of broken crockery.  After an awkward silence, Po says, 'Somebody broke this.'

Trump's defense is like that.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Apparently, it is impossible to impeach someone who won the most counties in 2016.



It seems that, irrespective of crimes and potential crimes committed by a sitting president, all that really counts in how many counties you won.

I'm convinced.

Boru

[Fake Messiah]

Hold your horses, Boru, like everything from Trump, it's a fake map

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-...e-map-meme

[downbeatplumb]

The issue as I understand it is that the transcript should be accessible for scrutiny and that by putting it in the server it effectively hid the document away from the oversight which was the reason for keeping it in the first place.

Its hiding your failed patients hospital records under the carpet. (I worked in a hospital, this happened, a Dr did that).

Sorry. I contend you simply don't have experience with classified information.

As I see it - Trump's detractors are playing the same game Trump in playing with the accusations that Hunter Biden was up to something illegal (which does not seem to be the case - shady perhaps - but not illegal).

They are accusing Trump of something shady ( using his legal ability to classify something he wants hidden) - but knowing it's not actually illegal.

Ultimately it's all political posturing - and of no real significance.

Of course I could be wrong. I don't have access to all the evidence.

Firstly I do have work NOW with documents that are classified and had access to the secret system in a previous job.

Other than that you completely side stepped my point by saying something unrelated.

His aides hid something that should not have been hidden and they did it purposely to hide the thing and not by accident or incompetence. They tried to cover up, if you will, the criminal actions of their employer.

[GUBU]

I don't think so.

Here's why - any unit or agency that handles classified material has storage on site that limits the class of material they can have.

Example - if security is low - they may only be able to receive and store only up to material rated confidential- the lowest rating.

If security is high enough - they will be able recieve and store up to Top Secret - the highest. (Codeword classification is different from security classification and may require higher levels of security)

If you are at a facility that has Top Secret capability -- ALL materials will be stored in this area - including any lower classified material or information - or even unclassified items that are needed in that area. It is totally permissible to store lower classification things in an area cleared for higher classified material. But not the other way around.

As the White House has TS facilities - anything classified - down to Confidential - would be stored in a common area. They simply don't have segregated storage for classified material.

Of course I an extrapolating for digital data - which didn't exist as such when I held my clearance. But I'm sure it applies the same as how data on paper is stored.

Then why was it moved?

Boru

Simples, because the three brain cells shared by the whole of the current WH staff finally woke up and realised that "oh crap, what Dumbfuck just did is treason. Better hide it".

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"I want Schiff questioned at the highest level for Fraud and Treason."
-- Trump

"I wouldn't cooperate with Adam Schiff. I think Adam Schiff should be removed."
-- Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani

"If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal."
-- Pastor Robert Jeffress, retweeted by Trump

"There's nothing there, but the Democrats say, 'We don't care. We're going to move towards impeachment.' They don't care about the facts."
-- Rep. Jim Jordan

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

'Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, aides recalled, he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. That’s not allowed either, they told him. ' New York Times, citing Thomas D. Homan, former acting director of ICE.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

President good brain wanted a moat, and he wanted it now now now!  Waaaaaaaaah.