Jesus already came (at lest for some)

[Godscreated]

Christ will not have to be announced by anything other than a trumpet blast at His second coming. When He does come everyone will know it, all at the same moment.

GC

Wow! Since when do Christians pay attention to prophecies about messiah? I mean that really. For Christians prophecies were always unimportant technicalities because then even their Jesus would be fake messiah considering that OT prophecies of the messiah's arrival would usher in: the end of sin, the end of suffering, peace and tranquility, one creed and one religion, the resurrection of the dead, the gathering of the ten tribes under a Davidic king, building of the future temple etc.  none of that happened and yet do I need to remind you how many people, including yourself, think this Jesus was indeed messiah prophesied by OT.

The apostles used the OT prophecies to preach about the Messiah. There preaching in this manner lead many thousands to the Messiah and they were Jews including priests. The rest of what you put forward is to happen at and after the second coming.

Even when writers of Jesus myth try to fulfill prophecies about Jesus coming, like Elijah's coming was to precede the messiah's arrival, write themselves into a corner and fail, because John the Baptist flatly stated he was not the predicted Elijah.

This was to reference that John was a representative of who Elijah was.

Not to mention that Jesus himself was really bad prophesying himself, like one about our times when he said "And they shall hear my voice and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." However, after two thousand years we have over 40 000 separate Christian denominations. That hardly sounds like one fold and one shepherd.

Christ is the one shepherd and the worlds Christians are His one flock.

Or Revelations 3:11 Jesus said, "Behold, I come quickly." After two thousand years Jesus is yet to come and by any measure that is hardly "quickly."

When one is an eternal being 2000 years is less than a second.

Or when he said "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth". He was not actually put in the earth, much less the heart of the earth and much less time.

He was in a tomb, meaning He was in the belly and/or heart of the earth.
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[Huggy Bear]

[Fake Messiah]

This was to reference that John was a representative of who Elijah was.

Not according to Jesus. In Matthew 11:14 Jesus says J.B. is the Elijah. Not representative, but Elijah himself and yet in John 1:21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.”
But I guess you know more then Jesus.

Christ is the one shepherd and the worlds Christians are His one flock.

Oh, too bad no one told this to Catholics and Protestants in Ireland they might stop killing each other over "right" Jesus. For sure then the massacre in Greysteel, at Halloween 1993 could have been avoided when Protestants bursted into a Catholic pub, shouted "trick or treat," and opened fire, killing 8 and wounding 13. Or all over Christian history where millions of people were killed by Christians because they were "wrong" Christians like the Cathari and the Waldensians with pope's famous blessing "Kill them all; God will know his own." and all those Catholic-Protestant wars, just the Thirty Years War in the 1600s, killed half the population of Germany. So this is one blatant lie you're telling.

When one is an eternal being 2000 years is less than a second.

Or maybe just a desperate to delude yourself in order to believe that Jesus was legit god. Like I told you he made many false prophecies like being in Earth for 3 days and nights and yet he did not. Or lying his ass off to the thief that tomorrow he will be with him in paradise when he is supposed to be in ground. I mean this is not just an ordinary Jesus lie like when he said that mustard seed is the smallest one in the world, but he is actually lying to the dying man, giving him false hopes. How much lower can you get from that.
Even Jesus himself he is a cheat. In Mark he simply asks 10:18. "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God." Here we have a clear-cut statement by Jesus that his character is flawed and that he is not to be considered the model of propriety. We have it from his own mouth. What more could one want?
So no wonder he lies, like to the thief on the cross, or to the anyone around him like in John 7:8-10 he told some people to go to a feast and that he would not be going. The text states that he later went up, not in public, but in private. Or when he "predicted" in Matthew 17:12-13 that he will die in the same manner John the Baptist was killed. Needles to say one was beheaded in prison while the other one crucified.

[Huggy Bear]

[brewer]

[Fake Messiah]

So you're just going to ignore my reply to you and address to GC instead? Am I to assume you have no response?

Oh the response

this means those prophecies you mentioned have still yet to be completed, which will happen during his second coming.

Actually you are avoiding to pin OT "prophecies" to Jesus by delaying it to his 2nd coming, then 3rd, then 4th, then 5th and so on. So there is slight difference between you and people that already chose their Christos among the ones that claim they're him, since they also obviously delayed the prophecies to his 197th coming. I mean everybody can be a messiah under those circumstances.

As a side question if you had to choose to follow one Jesus from the 1st post which one would you choose?

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[brewer]

[Minimalist]

[Huggy Bear]

The only person not willing to accept is you because it does not conform to your fantasy. Twist!

You still haven't proven how "last time" equates to meaning 2000 years ago...