Dawkins and Christianity

[Minimalist]

That's a group of nasty people.

Probably pretty typical of the jesus shits we get around here.

[Amarok]

It feels accusatory when someone posts at you about something bad another Christian did, or when they are talking about Christians in general. I too feel compelled to apologize in these sorts of scenarios. It kind of sends a mixed message when things like this get posted at us or about us in general, and then when we apologize we get told not to

Yet this whole thread seems devoted to Muslim bashing. And I point out this part started with Dawkins comment (which was not his comment) about Christians not having terrorist groups when they do . But at no point am I accusing every Christian of this.

[rjh4 is back]

Why would you apologize for all those comments? Did you make them? I just don't understand the thinking here. Apologize for things you are responsible for. Seems to me there is no need to apologize for anything else.

It would be like me as a white guy apologizing for slavery. Why would I do that? I did not participate in the act. Even if my ancestors did (they didn't...at least as far as I know), I wouldn't apologize.

Just a pet peeve of mine.

Before anyone is quick to take the last paragraph as I agree with the sentiment of those posts, I can assure you I do not. I would rather have a peace lover of any persuasion as my neighbor than any of those nut jobs.

It feels accusatory when someone posts at you about something bad another Christian did, or when they are talking about Christians in general. I too feel compelled to apologize in these sorts of scenarios. It kind of sends a mixed message when things like this get posted at us or about us in general, and then when we apologize we get told not to.

Why would it feel accusatory to you if you weren't the one doing it and nobody said you were doing it?

And I did not get any hint from anybody's post that they were asking for an apology from Christians here.  So how is there a mixed message? Seems to be only a message from me saying stop it because it doesn't make sense.

Their point was that there are a lot of nut job Christians out there (yeah, yeah, I know....all of them...save your fingers as I got to it first) at least saying they want to do the things Dawkins (if it really was him saying it) said , and they have shown some evidence in support of the point.

[Mr.wizard]

That's a group of nasty people.

Probably pretty typical of the jesus shits we get around here.

Lol, I'm not sure we get so many of the "Atheists Should Die" types, But we do get our fair share of crazies.

[Hammok Man]

I forgot to mention that I really do not have a problem with a crucifix being displayed at ground zero, as long as it was not purchased by tax dollars.

Just because it offends some people does not warrant its removal. That is a slippery slope.

[Minimalist]

Probably pretty typical of the jesus shits we get around here.

Lol, I'm not sure we get so many of the "Atheists Should Die" types, But we do get our fair share of crazies.

They're probably on their best behavior here.  I can just imagine what they're like when surrounded by other jesus loving shitwits.

[Amarok]

You can't prove he or the Army of God are Christian and until you can I say you're a spoof at best.

http://www.armyofgod.com/

I'll apologies for all those comments, they were stupid an not a Christian response, that's why I doubt they are Christians. If any of them are they haven't read the Bible and have not listened to those who are suppose to teach them that crap like that is undeniably against Jesus's teachings.

Sounds like what Muslims always tell me after a terrorist attack . So tell me do Islamic terrorists have to memorize the Koran before killing someone for it to count as Islamic terror .

By the way it's interesting that you did not post the violent responses of some of the atheist commenting on the article and they had the advantage of see the results before posting, this is in no way a defense for what those supposed Christians said.

Did  every say there were no violent atheists . Or deny those people were atheists ? I think not . And of course there is the small fact the site no longer exists .

[Harry Nevis]

Have you an actual quote of Dawkins saying that? Or just links to anonymous christard propoganda? Well actually it's both, because you follow the link from your link, it links to breitbart which links to an obscure seven year old blog post quoting something which it purports to be Dawkins, and then compounding it by saying it says x when it says y, a blog post which also was trying to say that gay people were trying to join the EDL which hates gays more than it does muslims. Yeah, your link is a pile of lying shit. Not surprising given you're posting it.

Given that Dawkins considers christianity as big a threat as islam is to the world, I am very confident that this is about as truthful as Lady Hope lying about converting Darwin on his deathbed.

 Why do you question what is your tactics with the Bible, you go to biased sights to get your info against the Bible and parade it around as the truth. And then there's this by two others "OUT of CONTEXT," really, tell me you didn't mean it, you accuse Christians of saying this and then you turn around and say the same thing, so that you know that's called a double standard. You guys need to get real and accept your does of medicine.

GC

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Quit fucking whining.  We can trace the quote to it's source - Dawkin's book or himself to find the context and the specific meaning. You can't do that with the bible.  It means whatever you were told it means.  And I've never met a christian yet who doesn't count on using the bible out of context.

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 I'll apologies for all those comments, they were stupid an not a Christian response, that's why I doubt they are Christians. If any of them are they haven't read the Bible and have not listened to those who are suppose to teach them that crap like that is undeniably against Jesus's teachings.

By the way it's interesting that you did not post the violent responses of some of the atheist commenting on the article and they had the advantage of see the results before posting, this is in no way a defense for what those supposed Christians said.

GC

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Apples and oranges.  You have a sky-daddy that makes his morals and expectations known to all who believe in him, yet they act like any other angry, bigoted self-righteous person.  If you can't expect believers to act at least better than atheists, what's the fucking point?  Ahhh, that's right.  You do it for your imaginary reward.

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Tizheruk
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Yes he is

And so are the majority of the people who praise such acts

 You can't prove he or the Army of God are Christian and until you can I say you're a spoof at best.

GC

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Can you prove ANY christian is a christian?  If not, you're no better.

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If they claim to be christian then they are christian. You don't get to judge, especially for me/us.

Okay, I'm a nuclear scientist, I claim it so I must be by your reasoning. So don't you break that rational thinking by saying I'm not. I need to give no other proof, by your own words I'm a nuclear scientist what I say is enough proof.

GC

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We can prove you're not a nuclear scientist. Conclusively. With no doubt.

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I'll apologies for all those comments,

Why would you apologize for all those comments? Did you make them? I just don't understand the thinking here. Apologize for things you are responsible for. Seems to me there is no need to apologize for anything else.

It would be like me as a white guy apologizing for slavery. Why would I do that? I did not participate in the act. Even if my ancestors did (they didn't...at least as far as I know), I wouldn't apologize.

Just a pet peeve of mine.

Before anyone is quick to take the last paragraph as I agree with the sentiment of those posts, I can assure you I do not. I would rather have a peace lover of any persuasion as my neighbor than any of those nut jobs.

It's that christian guilt trip kicking in.

[Godscreated]

I'll apologies for all those comments,

Why would you apologize for all those comments? Did you make them? I just don't understand the thinking here. Apologize for things you are responsible for. Seems to me there is no need to apologize for anything else.

It would be like me as a white guy apologizing for slavery. Why would I do that? I did not participate in the act. Even if my ancestors did (they didn't...at least as far as I know), I wouldn't apologize.

Just a pet peeve of mine.

Before anyone is quick to take the last paragraph as I agree with the sentiment of those posts, I can assure you I do not. I would rather have a peace lover of any persuasion as my neighbor than any of those nut jobs.

 Because they say they represent the Christian stance and I wanted others to know that wasn't true, nutty people like those is what hurts Christianity as a whole and most of them can't even see it. So my apology came from a Christian heart because people were offended by some who say they represent the Christian faith and they do not with those type of statements.

GC

[The Grand Nudger]

Of course they do, it's just that The Christian Faith is a bigger tent than "GC and the people who agree with GC - namely, GC". Ultimately, that's you guys' problem, no one elses. Get back to us when you have it all sorted out.