Franklin Township Ohio To Reinstall Confederate Monument

[Amarok]

To many Southerners Confederate monuments are cultural icons to their roots and ancestry.

No one cares  . All over the world people venerate evil assholes and proclaim it's part of their roots . Here's a hint get better roots.

[Jackalope]

To many Southerners Confederate monuments are cultural icons to their roots and ancestry.

And to other southern people those statues represent their oppressors, people who held them as property. Treasonous armed rebellion. White supremacy. Bigotry.

You snowflakes can get over it.

If they're so important to your cultural heritage, put them in a damn museum where birds won't shit on them, instead of in the public square where they serve as a reminder to your neighbors what their place was, and in some ways, continues to be.

Good God, man, find some fucking empathy.

[The Grand Nudger]

Ok.  Are there any statues to say, Benedict Arnold or the Rosenbergs?

Sure is.  That's where I cribbed my damnatio memoriae suggestion from.  Our monument to Benedict Arnold, aptly called "Boot Monument" is a statue of a leg (the one that Arnold lost the use of).  It does not refer to him by name.  We very literally hung a medal on his leg, and hung the rest of him for a traitor.  

Ok, you understand that these are statues of people who tried to overthrow the US for the right to keep human chattels, correct?  They are venerating statues of people who belonged to a foreign power that went to war against the US.  How many statues of Nazi leaders are in Ohio?  Is there a shrine to Tojo?  Do you have a Mussolini Memorial Library?

Boru

It was a civil war.  The contention is that they are honoring americans and american forces.  OFC, there are plenty of non-specific monuments to the american infantryman, for example.  There are even monuments, specifically, to all americans who died in the civil war.  Those monuments are brutal in their accuracy in ways that confederate statue pron was never even intended to be.  These monuments don't explicitly carry water for white supremacy, and obviously, as Boot Monument and the Burnt District Monument shows us...we're capable of expressing the admiration we might feel for a persons battlefield character in spite of their treasonous ends, and the loss suffered by civilians as collateral damage......without licking the KKK's hole in the process.

If one finds themselves fellating the instruments of control in segregated america as a means of honoring their history...... excuse me, feeling a deep and compelling sense of confederate statue enthusiasm.....then it's not because one has to, but because one wants to.

(there are plenty of statues to nazis in ohio, btw, just not the german kind. )

[Thumpalumpacus]

My wife's side of the family, the Hatfields, fought for the South. My family's ancestry is from Kentucky. One of my great grandfathers served in the Union Army under General Sherman. I would imagine that the central and southern areas of Ohio, especially, has some Southern roots. I have family throughout the South in Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee, as well as in Kentucky.

... and yet you thought to lecture a native Texan in this manner:

You can take what you know from your google education and leftwing indoctrination about Southern culture and ancestory and shove it all up your narrow minded snowflake ass.

Whose knowledge is more direct?

[A Theist]

Take a deep breath, Brian. People can be friendly, sheesh.

Also, it's legit not "lagit." Would you please turn your spell-checker on? That shit is driving me mental.

A-Theist isn't being friendly, he started this thread because he is frustrated that we cant take a time machine back in time where he can keep his head in the sand.

Oh and FYI, I do try to use my spell checker, and I don't mind people pointing out my mistakes. But I do have ADD and even with the red lines, I always miss something. But believe me, I do try. 

I am done verbally being nice to 45's supporters. 45 has use scapegoating vilification dangerous rhetoric for 5 years. That sick bullshit has embolden morons like A-Theist to make bullshit posts like this one. I can give you another summary of all the people and groups Covfefe has attacked if you like.

I'm sorry, there is no correct argument for keeping monuments up that glorify owning other human beings. Maybe A-Theist needs to tell 45 to shut the fuck up, instead of vilifying those whom are doing the right thing. But no, I don't owe A-Theist shit, anymore than the NFL players owes 45 shit.

But I do have ADD and even with the red lines, I always miss something.

Yup. You missed another one. Should be, "But I do have to ADD and even with the red lines, I always miss something."

You're getting too excited and you're hyperventilating. Try putting a plastic bag tightly over your head and try to breathe.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Take a deep breath, Brian. People can be friendly, sheesh.

Also, it's legit not "lagit." Would you please turn your spell-checker on? That shit is driving me mental.

A-Theist isn't being friendly, he started this thread because he is frustrated that we cant take a time machine back in time where he can keep his head in the sand.

Actually, he was having a friendly conversation with Industrial Lad.

Oh and FYI, I do try to use my spell checker, and I don't mind people pointing out my mistakes. But I do have ADD and even with the red lines, I always miss something. But believe me, I do try. 

There's one thing to remember: there is no "A" in "legit". It's really that easy.

I am done verbally being nice to 45's supporters.

I never noticed you being nice to them to begin with.

[The Grand Nudger]

The fuckin yankees wont leave us alone Thump.  Now they're telling us how to be properly southern, and chiding us for our "close mindedness".....in being opposed to racist yard art. 

[Thumpalumpacus]

The fuckin yankees wont leave us alone Thump.  Now they're telling us how to be properly southern, and chiding us for our "close mindedness".....in being opposed to racist yard art. 

He's carpetbaggin' mah heritage!

[A Theist]

My wife's side of the family, the Hatfields, fought for the South. My family's ancestry is from Kentucky. One of my great grandfathers served in the Union Army under General Sherman. I would imagine that the central and southern areas of Ohio, especially, has some Southern roots. I have family throughout the South in Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee, as well as in Kentucky.

... and yet you thought to lecture a native Texan is this manner:

You can take what you know from your google education and leftwing indoctrination about Southern culture and ancestory and shove it all up your narrow minded snowflake ass.

Whose knowledge is more direct?

Forgot to mention that I have family living in Garland too. I'm planning to be up that way to visit them after the first of the year.

I'd say that my experience is every bit as direct as yours, if not, even more. I grew up with it. You're more Southwestern.

[Brian37]

A-Theist isn't being friendly, he started this thread because he is frustrated that we cant take a time machine back in time where he can keep his head in the sand.

Actually, he was having a friendly conversation with Industrial Lad.

Oh and FYI, I do try to use my spell checker, and I don't mind people pointing out my mistakes. But I do have ADD and even with the red lines, I always miss something. But believe me, I do try. 

There's one thing to remember: there is no "A" in "legit". It's really that easy.

I am done verbally being nice to 45's supporters.

I never noticed you being nice to them to begin with.

Make you a deal, tell the fucker to knock off his scapegoating and vilification, then we cant talk, if you are not willing to do that, please use that barb wire dildo I recommended.

Nope, I don't play verbally nice with political bullies. Don't like it? Tough shit. Maybe you need to tell him to stop being a fucking dick.