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Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
Maybe it is because the vary idea that women must be wrapped either for their or our safety is repugnant. Women should not be required to wear a wrapper for any reason. I prefer to see them with no covering whatsoever, but I'm also happy to see them dressed in whatever manner pleases themselves.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
(October 3, 2017 at 4:54 am)pool the matey Wrote: Okay, okay, I see the angle you're coming from. But I think the freedom to wear whatever should be left to the person wearing it. If women are forced to not wear a burqa it will definitely be dictating their attire,

But the thing is, those women don't have that right. Wearing the burqa is a thing forced on women in muslim countries, and by muslim society in non-muslim ones.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
Burqa is associated with oppression and rightly so, most people are against this oppression, but I won't deny that there are many bigots too who are just out to bully the minorities.

Regarding the "choice" of wearing burqa, most muslim women are brainwashed from childhood to make them believe that wearing the burqa is by their own choice and a part of their identity. People will often fight tooth and nails against anything they perceive as a threat to their identity, so giving them the choice cannot be done through any law or legal means, rather the only way for them to truly recognize their rights is through proper education.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
(October 3, 2017 at 1:38 am)Arsoo Wrote: There is nothing wrong with the Burqa itself. It is a religious and also somewhat cultural symbol of the Islamic faith. It's no different in most respects than a Christian person wearing a cross around their neck or a Sikh person wearing a turban in general. I do know that some people think negatively of it because they think that it undermines a woman's rights. They think it reinforces the oppression many women endure on a day to day basis, and they don't think it's fair that men get to decide what women ought to wear while men themselves do not have to cover their faces.
According to the Bible Jewish women were wearing burqas before they could walk.  It was primarily used by hookers.  

And Paul said that Christian women were to cover their heads in church or else the men were to grab them and shave their heads.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
It angers me that women are forced by law to wear these body bags. Not allowed to drive. Not appear in public without a male relative as supervisor.

If it is voluntary I don't care what they wear.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
OK pool, in muslim communities where the women are allowed to choose what to wear, do they all continue to wear burqa's? Nope.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
I don't like the look of the burqa because it is not part of the culture I grew up with.
I have to accept that I live in a multi-cultural country and that ultimately it is up to the people that wear them.
Western women wear high heels, make-up and ill fitting and uncomfortable clothes for the benefit of males also and that's their choice.
Women aren't forced to wear burqas in Indonesia or Malaysia but millions do.
It probably wouldn't hurt for the west to tone down it's arrogance towards other cultures a little.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
(October 3, 2017 at 12:13 am)pool the matey Wrote: This sentiment seems to be actually growing..
Any idea why this is happening? I happened to see an interview of the granddaughter of Hitler's financial minister who is apparently leading a party in Germany, not sure about that but apparently her position is that nuns that wear headscarf can do it but Muslims can't.

What is going on? Like most of you already know I don't live anywhere near where this anti Muslim sentiments are growing but I am curious as to why this is happening

Really? 

Um being anti oppression is not the same as being a bigot. 

Ayaan Hirsi Ali grew up in the Islamic part of the world, and was a former Muslim. She'd be happy to explain to you why this is a shitty argument.

Secondly, Islam does not own a patent on gender role clothing. Christianity even in America today, still has sexist clothing. Catholic Nuns in many conservative sects are still required to wear Habbits and have  their heads and necks covered. The rural LDS mormons also have very sexist clothing like the sect child bride advocate Warren Jeffs now in jail for child molestation.

Even in Sikhs and Hindus depending on sect or individual family put the purity of the female and honor of the family on the female instead of blaming the men if the girl/female is assaulted.

It is NOT a matter of being a bigot to point out that another human being has the right to their own decision making, including that of clothing. 

I am for freedom of religion, I am for human rights, but that does not mean every idea a person buys or sells is one of equality. Burka's are not a promotion of equality, but a religiously justified symbol of male sexism. 

Remember your shitty argument because Ayaan still lives under threat of death, and had her documentary film maker friend stabbed to death over a documentary exposing the treatment of females. The knife was stuck in his chest with a message to her saying, "You're next".

I think you need to worry about her rights and not coddle the insecurity of religiously justified sexism. Nobody is out to ban any religion, for standing up for human rights.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
(October 3, 2017 at 12:13 am)pool the matey Wrote: This sentiment seems to be actually growing..
Any idea why this is happening? I happened to see an interview of the granddaughter of Hitler's financial minister who is apparently leading a party in Germany, not sure about that but apparently her position is that nuns that wear headscarf can do it but Muslims can't.

What is going on? Like most of you already know I don't live anywhere near where this anti Muslim sentiments are growing but I am curious as to why this is happening

You're not going to nail down one answer here. As for myself;

Frankly I find the thing detestable (in both the Muslim and Christian fashions) for what it represents. Religious oppression of women.
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RE: Why do people get angry seeing a Burqa
(October 3, 2017 at 8:44 am)Bob Kelso Wrote:
(October 3, 2017 at 12:13 am)pool the matey Wrote: This sentiment seems to be actually growing..
Any idea why this is happening? I happened to see an interview of the granddaughter of Hitler's financial minister who is apparently leading a party in Germany, not sure about that but apparently her position is that nuns that wear headscarf can do it but Muslims can't.

What is going on? Like most of you already know I don't live anywhere near where this anti Muslim sentiments are growing but I am curious as to why this is happening

You're not going to nail down one answer here. As for myself;

Frankly I find the thing detestable (in both the Muslim and Christian fashions) for what it represents. Religious oppression of women.

ARGGGGGGG

Religiously justified sexism EXISTS, in EVERY religion worldwide, to greater or lesser degrees depending on sect and or individual family.

Conservative Jews a couple years back in Israel, held back a passenger jet because their asshole sexist men refused to sit next to women on the flight.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/10/us/ab...igion.html

Not even Buddhism escapes this. 

https://vimeo.com/131814486

Now again, I don't point this out as some sort of call to end all religions, but merely to point out that these things happen because humans falsely attribute their morality as coming from their label/holy writings. Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate is not in our labels, but in our evolution, and men, regardless of nationality or religion, are quite capable of being sexist fucks. 

Yes Christianity, like Islam has members whom read their holy writings to justify sexism, but that is not a patent held by one religion. Sexism exists in every religion.
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