Roger Goodell sends letter to NFL teams

[henryp]

Since it's now not about the flag or anthem, maybe the players could stand for the anthem, and take a knee after they score a touchdown or get a sack, or whatever else, instead of miming duck duck goose, or whatever other choreographed silliness they had planned.

We've seen from Tebow kneeling that it certainly will get plenty of coverage. And you remove any of the confusion over the flag stuff. It'll still piss people off, but they won't have their legitimate 'What about the veterans!?" complaint. It'll just be angry white divorcee with their "Just play the game!" bullshit.

It also sticks it to the NFL, because they like to sell their players as cartoonish idiots for us all to laugh at. Look at them do their silly dances, aren't they adorable! Give us more money to watch them shimmy about!

[Divinity]

If they implement this rule, as a fuck you to the NFL the players should refuse to sign their next players agreement and go on strike when the next agreement comes up. And until then, they should stand with their backs facing the camera as a fuck you to Roger Goodell, and to the Americans who are offeded by this shit because they're nothing but a bunch of pathetic, whiny, racist, no-life losers.

[Brian37]

Since it's now not about the flag or anthem, maybe the players could stand for the anthem, and take a knee after they score a touchdown or get a sack, or whatever else, instead of miming duck duck goose, or whatever other choreographed silliness they had planned.  

We've seen from Tebow kneeling that it certainly will get plenty of coverage.  And you remove any of the confusion over the flag stuff.  It'll still piss people off, but they won't have their legitimate 'What about the veterans!?" complaint.  It'll just be angry white divorcee with their "Just play the game!" bullshit.

It also sticks it to the NFL, because they like to sell their players as cartoonish idiots for us all to laugh at.  Look at them do their silly dances, aren't they adorable!  Give us more money to watch them shimmy about.

You want "cartoonish" that would have been the horrible XFL which attempted to mix WWE with pro football.
Fleebow or kneeling to thank a God is not an act of protest. I don't care if a white or black player points tot the sky to thank a fictional god.
The kneeling DURING the Anthem isn't a stunt or a score celebration, nor a nod to God. It has a completely different intent.
If you think what players do in thanking God or doing the Icky Shuffle is the same as kneeling during the anthem, then sorry, no polite way to put it, BUT YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.
The players protesting during the anthem are NOT doing it for the money. If you think that, sorry, that is just simply patently absurd.
What the players are doing is NOTHING NEW. It is needed, and the very same intent as what was done by MLB players and Olympic athletes during the 60s and 70s.

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If they implement this rule, as a fuck you to the NFL the players should refuse to sign their next players agreement and go on strike when the next agreement comes up.  And until then, they should stand with their backs facing the camera as a fuck you to Roger Goodell, and to the Americans who are offeded by this shit because they're nothing but a bunch of pathetic, whiny, racist, no-life losers.

To quote Jack Lord from the original Hawaii Five O, " You said it brodda!" Yea I know, but you still get it. 

Some morons simply don't understand, or refuse to understand there are more important things that money.

I forgot which NFL kicker a few years back, got drummed out of the NFL for being an open skeptic. He'd probably still be in the league if he kept his mouth shut. Former Viking if I am remembering correctly. He spoke at an atheist convention a few years back. 

And I don't know if he is still playing, and unfortunately I forgot this Running Back's name, but there was a Houston Texan black Running Back who was also a skeptic and valued science. Not sure if he is still in the league, would not surprise me if he is out just like the Vikings kicker.

Like I said, some things are far more important than money. The ability to live without fear and live in dignity is what the fight to end segregation was about. And even 50 years plus after the fact, some still fail to see that we still have inequality. If you can be kicked out of the league for being a white NFL kicker and skeptic, and lose your job for being a black NFL player and skeptic, then that should give you some idea of how we still have problems just on race issues alone.

[henryp]

Since it's now not about the flag or anthem, maybe the players could stand for the anthem, and take a knee after they score a touchdown or get a sack, or whatever else, instead of miming duck duck goose, or whatever other choreographed silliness they had planned.  

We've seen from Tebow kneeling that it certainly will get plenty of coverage.  And you remove any of the confusion over the flag stuff.  It'll still piss people off, but they won't have their legitimate 'What about the veterans!?" complaint.  It'll just be angry white divorcee with their "Just play the game!" bullshit.

It also sticks it to the NFL, because they like to sell their players as cartoonish idiots for us all to laugh at.  Look at them do their silly dances, aren't they adorable!  Give us more money to watch them shimmy about.

You want "cartoonish" that would have been the horrible XFL which attempted to mix WWE with pro football.
Fleebow or kneeling to thank a God is not an act of protest. I don't care if a white or black player points tot the sky to thank a fictional god.
The kneeling DURING the Anthem isn't a stunt or a score celebration, nor a nod to God. It has a completely different intent.
If you think what players do in thanking God or doing the Icky Shuffle is the same as kneeling during the anthem, then sorry, no polite way to put it, BUT YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.
The players protesting during the anthem are NOT doing it for the money. If you think that, sorry, that is just simply patently absurd.
What the players are doing is NOTHING NEW. It is needed, and the very same intent as what was done by MLB players and Olympic athletes during the 60s and 70s.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Brian37]

You want "cartoonish" that would have been the horrible XFL which attempted to mix WWE with pro football.
Fleebow or kneeling to thank a God is not an act of protest. I don't care if a white or black player points tot the sky to thank a fictional god.
The kneeling DURING the Anthem isn't a stunt or a score celebration, nor a nod to God. It has a completely different intent.
If you think what players do in thanking God or doing the Icky Shuffle is the same as kneeling during the anthem, then sorry, no polite way to put it, BUT YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.
The players protesting during the anthem are NOT doing it for the money. If you think that, sorry, that is just simply patently absurd.
What the players are doing is NOTHING NEW. It is needed, and the very same intent as what was done by MLB players and Olympic athletes during the 60s and 70s.

What the fuck are you talking about?

I am saying it is stupid and flat out wrong to confuse nods to god after a score, or end zone celebrations for that matter, as to being the same as kneeling during the Anthem. TWO completely different intents.

[The Grand Nudger]

Since it's now not about the flag or anthem, maybe the players could stand for the anthem, and take a knee after they score a touchdown or get a sack, or whatever else, instead of miming duck duck goose, or whatever other choreographed silliness they had planned.  

There are rules against those sorts of offensive displays.  Wouldn't want to have the chains moved back, now would we?

[Tiberius]

Since it's now not about the flag or anthem, maybe the players could stand for the anthem, and take a knee after they score a touchdown or get a sack, or whatever else, instead of miming duck duck goose, or whatever other choreographed silliness they had planned.  

There are rules against those sorts of offensive displays.  Wouldn't want to have the chains moved back, now would we?

They've actually become more lenient recently. You can't do anything considered "offensive" (like grabbing your crotch) but most short celebrations are allowed now. I think one team last week mimed hitting a home run.

[Minimalist]

I read through the NFL-NFLPA Collective Bargaining agreement yesterday.  Such a rule change will require negotiations.  That won't go well.  The agreement expires in 2021 and is already in trouble.  Are they going to start the acrimony 4 years early because President Fucktard had a hissy fit in order to distract from his multiple fuck ups?

[Brian37]

Since it's now not about the flag or anthem, maybe the players could stand for the anthem, and take a knee after they score a touchdown or get a sack, or whatever else, instead of miming duck duck goose, or whatever other choreographed silliness they had planned.  

There are rules against those sorts of offensive displays.  Wouldn't want to have the chains moved back, now would we?

Um what? Rules change from year to year. This year end zone celebrations are being allowed within reason, still no taunting allowed, but the guy that acted like a dog peeing on a hydrant was fined, and yea, that went too far.

You also cant hurl a ball at an apposing player as a form of celebration. But they are allowing more after score celebrations this year. 

I can remember the wide receiver "Wild Bunch" back in the 80s for the Skins, would form a circle and high five each other. I think that should be allowed. Coddling the ball like a newborn too, is cute and silly. I don't mind that either.

But none of this thread is about after score celebrations, either thanking a God or spiking the ball. This thread is about protesting during the anthem.

[henryp]

What the fuck are you talking about?

I am saying it is stupid and flat out wrong to confuse nods to god after a score, or end zone celebrations for that matter, as to being the same as kneeling during the Anthem. TWO completely different intents.

I didn't say they were the same.  I said instead of doing a celebration, kneel in protest.  Celebrations are silly and unimportant.  Protesting is not silly and very important.  So using that opportunity for protest instead of dance around seems like it'd send a strong message without the baggage the anthem/flag brings.

And I used the amount of coverage Tebow got for kneeling to make the point that the action likely wouldn't lose exposure by going from during the Anthem to during the game.