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Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Hammy Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 6:07 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Heh, IRL, I had much more dudes hitting on me than women *srugs*. Never had a woman hitting on me ever.

I've never had either Undecided

The trick is you try to be funny and be able to take a slap on the face. sometimes that means yes.

WTTW: "did you go poop?" is not a good pickup line. barring some exceptions like CL.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 6:24 pm)LastPoet Wrote: The trick is you try to be funny and be able to take a slap on the face. sometimes that means yes.

I'm too polite to get slapped in RL.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 6:07 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I dunno if the thought crossed your mind, but an atheist does not believe in gods. There are homophobic atheists too, altough, the former can't really explain their desires without a religion. Heh, IRL, I had much more dudes hitting on me than women *srugs*. Never had a woman hitting on me ever.

Here's the difference: I always say I'm not trying to convert you; neither am I playing "missionary games" to trick you into my faith.
Though; I try my best to remind with what I can; warn in the context of my faith as I can.

When I read certain verses in the Quran; but I rarely see them being used, and instead hideous;sexist text are being used; I have to contribute with something.
It's not a phobia; but it's what certain incidents strike your psychological state over a period of time that make us lust for the same gender.

It's not evil; but it's everything except normal. Really there are no genetics responsible, not even evolutionary lin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual...psychology

Quote:Prior to and throughout most of the 20th century, common standard psychology viewed homosexuality in terms of pathological models as a mental illness. That classification began to be tested in research, which hasn't produced strong empirical evidence regarding homosexuality as a disorder. A large number of professionals in medicine, mental health, and the behavioral and social sciences, "sit on the fence" regarding the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder. In more recent years many have claimed the conclusion as accurate, and that the DSM classification reflected tested assumptions that were based on once-prevalent social norms and clinical impressions from "official" samples which consisted of patients seeking therapy and individuals whose conduct brought them into the criminal justice system.[1]

I believe it's a mental disorder, a state you get if your mom was like "Nero's mother", or your school was "religious hellhole that prevent boys from seeing girls",



It's a mental Disorder. Transexual porn is the ultimate evidence for me, because it makes men be women to some extent; keeping "both worlds intact". It's a sickness that I saw getting manufactured in the Wahhabi schools of Saudi Arabia, with the iron hand they forced on students in regards of interaction with women.

And from what I hear; women too got into lesbianism in SA. In huge numbers.
Ask the 90s generation.

The more you dwell into the act; the more you give in, the more you become gay; the more you enjoy it.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 7:15 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 6:07 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I dunno if the thought crossed your mind, but an atheist does not believe in gods. There are homophobic atheists too, altough, the former can't really explain their desires without a religion. Heh, IRL, I had much more dudes hitting on me than women *srugs*. Never had a woman hitting on me ever.

Here's the difference: I always say I'm not trying to convert you; neither am I playing "missionary games" to trick you into my faith.
Though; I try my best to remind with what I can; warn in the context of my faith as I can.

When I read certain verses in the Quran; but I rarely see them being used, and instead hideous;sexist text are being used; I have to contribute with something.
It's not a phobia; but it's what certain incidents strike your psychological state over a period of time that make us lust for the same gender.

It's not evil; but it's everything except normal. Really there are no genetics responsible, not even evolutionary lin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual...psychology

Quote:Prior to and throughout most of the 20th century, common standard psychology viewed homosexuality in terms of pathological models as a mental illness. That classification began to be tested in research, which hasn't produced strong empirical evidence regarding homosexuality as a disorder. A large number of professionals in medicine, mental health, and the behavioral and social sciences, "sit on the fence" regarding the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder. In more recent years many have claimed the conclusion as accurate, and that the DSM classification reflected tested assumptions that were based on once-prevalent social norms and clinical impressions from "official" samples which consisted of patients seeking therapy and individuals whose conduct brought them into the criminal justice system.[1]

I believe it's a mental disorder, a state you get if your mom was like "Nero's mother", or your school was "religious hellhole that prevent boys from seeing girls",



It's a mental Disorder. Transexual porn is the ultimate evidence for me, because it makes men be women to some extent; keeping "both worlds intact". It's a sickness that I saw getting manufactured in the Wahhabi schools of Saudi Arabia, with the iron hand they forced on students in regards of interaction with women.

And from what I hear; women too got into lesbianism in SA. In huge numbers.
Ask the 90s generation.

The more you dwell into the act; the more you give in, the more you become gay; the more you enjoy it.

That is fucked up man. A mental disorder?

You are no better than MK.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 7:25 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 7:15 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Here's the difference: I always say I'm not trying to convert you; neither am I playing "missionary games" to trick you into my faith.
Though; I try my best to remind with what I can; warn in the context of my faith as I can.

When I read certain verses in the Quran; but I rarely see them being used, and instead hideous;sexist text are being used; I have to contribute with something.
It's not a phobia; but it's what certain incidents strike your psychological state over a period of time that make us lust for the same gender.

It's not evil; but it's everything except normal. Really there are no genetics responsible, not even evolutionary lin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual...psychology


I believe it's a mental disorder, a state you get if your mom was like "Nero's mother", or your school was "religious hellhole that prevent boys from seeing girls",



It's a mental Disorder. Transexual porn is the ultimate evidence for me, because it makes men be women to some extent; keeping "both worlds intact". It's a sickness that I saw getting manufactured in the Wahhabi schools of Saudi Arabia, with the iron hand they forced on students in regards of interaction with women.

And from what I hear; women too got into lesbianism in SA. In huge numbers.
Ask the 90s generation.

The more you dwell into the act; the more you give in, the more you become gay; the more you enjoy it.

That is fucked up man. A mental disorder?

You are no better than MK.

Thank you.
Mental Disorder =/= Crazy =/= Evil.

Especially when you know about "Mental Disorders" like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

Quote:In one common form of synesthesia, known as grapheme-color synesthesia or color-graphemic synesthesia, letters or numbers are perceived as inherently colored.[5][6] In spatial-sequence, or number form synesthesia, numbers, months of the year, or days of the week elicit precise locations in space (for example, 1980 may be "farther away" than 1990), or may appear as a three-dimensional map (clockwise or counterclockwise).[7][8] Synesthetic associations can occur in any combination and any number of senses or cognitive pathways.[9]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia#cite_note-9][/url]
That's a one cool mental disorder. Imagine smoking weed while having it; I'm sure the result will be dope.

Op saying that gay people are evil.
How does that equate with saying it's a disorder?
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 7:25 pm)LastPoet Wrote: That is fucked up man. A mental disorder?

You are no better than MK.

I think you might be getting too caught up in terminology there. I can see how it might be classified as a disorder from a clinical standpoint - just as other reproductive disorders are so-classified. It's obviously counter to evolutionary advantage. The key is not attaching moral or any other kind of judgement to it. It is not something to fear, to revile someone for or disrespect someone for.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 4:04 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 10:53 am)Khemikal Wrote: I've never seen Atlas express an interest or aptitude for thinking for himself when it comes to magic book.   Hell, MK is the one wondering whether or not allah got some shit wrong, in this particular instance, lol.

Parse that......

For the record: I have no Imam, no school of Islamic thought, nothing but direct linguistic interpretation of the Quran alone.

(October 21, 2017 at 12:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Atlas' magic book says the same...and Atlas isn't being transparent.  It's inescapable, no muslim can criticize another - regardless of sect, on religious grounds, for tossing gays off a building.  To be blunt, tossing them off a building is minor compared to what magic book suggests is the righteous coarse of action.

You have to bring a verse from the Quran that orders believers to kill homosexuals.
That verse doesn't exist; so Sunni/Shiite scholars use the Hadith to add up the brutal sentence.

Google it
Of course it does...but aren't you the quran guy...should I have to link it, or can you own it?
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 7:38 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 7:25 pm)LastPoet Wrote: That is fucked up man. A mental disorder?

You are no better than MK.

Thank you.
Mental Disorder =/= Crazy =/= Evil.

Especially when you know about "Mental Disorders" like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

Quote:In one common form of synesthesia, known as grapheme-color synesthesia or color-graphemic synesthesia, letters or numbers are perceived as inherently colored.[5][6] In spatial-sequence, or number form synesthesia, numbers, months of the year, or days of the week elicit precise locations in space (for example, 1980 may be "farther away" than 1990), or may appear as a three-dimensional map (clockwise or counterclockwise).[7][8] Synesthetic associations can occur in any combination and any number of senses or cognitive pathways.[9]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia#cite_note-9][/url]
That's a one cool mental disorder. Imagine smoking weed while having it; I'm sure the result will be dope.

Op saying that gay people are evil.
How does that equate with saying it's a disorder?

You saying that gay people have a mental disorder. So according to you and the link you provide, what this means is that if you fall in love with someone who has the same sexual organs that you do, you have a mental disorder. 
How does that make things any better than what MK is saying? Being gay isn't something that you can "treat" with medications or therapy, so no - it never should even be on the table for discussion as to whether or not it's a mental disorder. And the fact that psychologists can't "treat" being gay, only pisses them off, so they try and find another workaround to make people feel guilty for falling in love with someone of the same sex. 

You know what this is? This is certain members of society being so insecure with their own sexuality that they feel the need to trample on anyone's rights that don't have views that fall in line with their own. Why? Because a bunch of psychologists said so? Because a bunch of rich, uppity, snotty people can't stand the sight of two men locking lips? Bull. It's no more a mental disorder than someone going to work every day to support their family. And people like you, MK, the religious right and those who wrote that horrible article you linked to are the reasons why hatred of all kinds continue in this world. You all can't seem to get past your own homophobia, so you try to spread your misplaced utterances to anyone willing to listen. And many, if not all of you, utilize guilt and threats through religion to curtail certain behaviors that are just natural to some people. When that doesn't work, you use threats of being put to death or thrown off a building or hung or lashed in front of the public because of the ridiculous laws put into place in your country, based entirely on some stupid religious book. 

You know, I may hate the current situation that my country is in right now, but I have never been more relieved to know that my son can wear a dress to homecoming and he can go with his boyfriend, in this country, and not be condemned for doing so. They don't have to deal with being told they are going to face a public beating or go to jail simply because they love each other. They are free to be themselves and love each other and they have the full backing and support of both of their families with that. People in the ME can't do that. They have to push away their feelings because getting caught with someone of the same sex, in a sexual situation, could literally get them killed. If I was gay living in the ME, I would do everything I could to try and get the fuck out of there. My life would literally depend on it.

You claim it's "not natural" to be gay. Guess what's not natural? Telling people who they can or cannot love and forcing them to love the opposite gender simply because your society is uncomfortable with same sex relationships.  I think you all need to be fucked in the ass with a cactus and NO lube. 

You also, in your other post, allude to being gay as a choice. You are wrong. MK is wrong. Yet both of you refuse to see that. You've both been told numerous times in this thread that being gay is NOT a choice. You don't wake up one day and decide you're gay. And you've been told this too. Why can't you people just admit that you are wrong about that and move on with your lives? If you don't want to be in a gay relationship, don't be in one, but stop telling everyone else that they can make the choice not to be gay. You don't have that right.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 8:32 pm)Joods Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 7:38 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Thank you.
Mental Disorder =/= Crazy =/= Evil.

Especially when you know about "Mental Disorders" like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia#cite_note-9][/url]
That's a one cool mental disorder. Imagine smoking weed while having it; I'm sure the result will be dope.

Op saying that gay people are evil.
How does that equate with saying it's a disorder?

You saying that gay people have a mental disorder. So according to you and the link you provide, what this means is that if you fall in love with someone who has the same sexual organs that you do, you have a mental disorder. 
How does that make things any better than what MK is saying? Being gay isn't something that you can "treat" with medications or therapy, so no - it never should even be on the table for discussion as to whether or not it's a mental disorder. And the fact that psychologists can't "treat" being gay, only pisses them off, so they try and find another workaround to make people feel guilty for falling in love with someone of the same sex. 

You know what this is? This is certain members of society being so insecure with their own sexuality that they feel the need to trample on anyone's rights that don't have views that fall in line with their own. Why? Because a bunch of psychologists said so? Because a bunch of rich, uppity, snotty people can't stand the sight of two men locking lips? Bull. It's no more a mental disorder than someone going to work every day to support their family. And people like you, MK, the religious right and those who wrote that horrible article you linked to are the reasons why hatred of all kinds continue in this world. You all can't seem to get past your own homophobia, so you try to spread your misplaced utterances to anyone willing to listen. And many, if not all of you, utilize guilt and threats through religion to curtail certain behaviors that are just natural to some people. When that doesn't work, you use threats of being put to death or thrown off a building or hung or lashed in front of the public because of the ridiculous laws put into place in your country, based entirely on some stupid religious book. 

You claim it's "not natural" to be gay. Guess what's not natural? Telling people who they can or cannot love and forcing them to love the opposite gender simply because your society is uncomfortable with same sex relationships.  I think you all need to be fucked in the ass with a cactus and NO lube. 

You also, in your other post, allude to being gay as a choice. You are wrong. MK is wrong. Yet both of you refuse to see that. You've both been told numerous times in this thread that being gay is NOT a choice. You don't wake up one day and decide you're gay. And you've been told this too. Why can't you people just admit that you are wrong about that and move on with your lives? If you don't want to be in a gay relationship, don't be in one, but stop telling everyone else that they can make the choice not to be gay. You don't have that right.

The human brain is a matter of connections and nerves being connected based on your experiences. That's how we learn new things. It works the same for sex; it's scientifically proven that your brain produces ( Dopamine ) during that process. The same chemical compound produced when you take Heroine. What makes you lust for the drug is Dopamine.

If Dopamine is produced when you have the sexual experience with the same gender; then something in your head made it get produced when you're around the same gender, something like preventing you from seeing girls during your puberty time? get your first wet dream on "Mustafa" and stuff. Your brain will connect the nerves depending on that experience that produces Dopamine the best; just like a library.

That's why once a cheater always a cheater; in many cases. Once stupid; always stupid. Everybody is actually equal; but it's the experience that define who we are.

A good manipulator can make whatever they can out of a society if they controlled what excites people; what makes their "brains" produce "The Reward Chemical" or "Dopamine".

Homosexuality according to my belief; is the fault of the society that made the Dopamine of some people get fired in the wrong times. I shouldn't produce Dopamine when I see a feminine dude. I shouldn't fire Dopamine when I see a circumcised penis. But I remember quite well when I used to check out "Ali" -who was quite hairless and white- in school;when his leg show up by mistake. Shit; that was because there were no women, no girls to love in flesh and blood.

So that's my opinion; Homosexuality is not evil; but an aftermath.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 21, 2017 at 12:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: No one should be hurt by one person's view.

Absolutely correct. Clap

Unfortunately, in certain parts of the world, people are being hurt, and maimed, and killed, by the views of others who believe as you do.

Now, when those who think they are being righteous are killing innocent people whom they believe are evil, or committing evil, purely by virtue of their nature, that's the time to reflect on whom is actually doing the evil.

I wish you well in the endeavour and hope with the truest sincerity that the MysticKnight we know comes back to us.
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