Too many near death experiences

[Minimalist]

Can near death experience stories be made up.

Of course - because religitards are full of shit.

[The Valkyrie]

Can near death experience stories be made up. Are religious people on the youtube video's are willing to lie about such important things to them to others and still remain in religion? There's just too many different videos on youtube describing nde's torture's of hell . Which seems too good to be true.

There are many reasons people have NDE's, and every one that I've read about seems to have a logical explanation.

Or, to answer question two, they're made up.  Yes, some theists will most certainly lie if it will get a couple of people to join their belief system.  A famous example is a young boy who "died" and went to "heaven".  The boy told the story publicly and the father wrote a book about it.

Then the boy came forward and said it was all made up and his father had told him what to say.

[The Grand Nudger]

Can near death experience stories be made up.

They don't need to be made up.  NDEs appear to be a legitimate neurological phenomenon whereby people in medical crisis imagine an afterlife.

I don't believe for one fucking instant that they actually saw a real afterlife, though.

I'd be willing to bet that whatever slim portion of nde stories are credible reports of an actual experience still contain significant exaggeration and, shall we say "mis-remembered" narrative arcs.

[purplepurpose]

Can near death experience stories be made up.

Of course - because religitards are full of shit.

Min, just curious, how religion managed to make you so extremely triggered? What was the worst part you can share?

[Simon Moon]

That said these are most definitely not in the same category as hallucinations in terms of richness, clarity, complexity, and how dramatically they change the lives of those who have experienced NDE's.

Somebody hasn't tried a high dose of LSD or DMT. Hallucinations can be INCREDIBLY rich, vivid, and complex and drastically change people. NDEs are no different.

Indeed.

The fact that NDE's have these attributes; richness, clarity, complexity, and how dramatically they change the lives of those who have experienced NDE's, does not mean that they are actually experiencing a glimpse of an afterlife. All this proves is that they have different attributes that other types of hallucination experiences than non NDE hallucination experiences.

And yes, my experiences with mushrooms and DMT had all the same attributes that Neo-Scholastic describes related to NDE's, including changing my life.

[The Grand Nudger]

That's why we seek out altered states in the first place. To change our lives.

[Minimalist]

Of course - because religitards are full of shit.

Min, just curious, how religion managed to make you so extremely triggered? What was the worst part you can share?

Time.  And watching the lying fucks try to shove their fucking bullshit agenda up every ones assholes every chance they get.

That's enough, isn't it?

Why do you tolerate liars?

[purplepurpose]

Min, just curious, how religion managed to make you so extremely triggered? What was the worst part you can share?

Time.  And watching the lying fucks try to shove their fucking bullshit agenda up every ones assholes every chance they get.

That's enough, isn't it?

Why do you tolerate liars?

I can't say aliens don't exist to UFO fans. Same thing with God fans. They wish to buy a ticket to heaven(peaceful and relatively sane believers) - that's their business.

[Simon Moon]

Of course - because religitards are full of shit.

Min, just curious, how religion managed to make you so extremely triggered? What was the worst part you can share?

Have you had a chance to look around the world?

African Christians burning children alive for being witches, Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, creationists trying to get their pseudoscience taught in public school science courses, politicians not accepting climate change because their ancient text claims that god will not destroy the world in a flood again, homosexuals persecuted (and thrown off buildings in some countries), wars started, planes flown into buildings at several hundred miles an hour, children in the US prevented by their parents from getting medical help, etc, etc, all for one ridiculous, unsupported religious belief or another.

If you are not angry at any of the above, then you just aren't paying attention.

[The Grand Nudger]

I can't say aliens don't exist to UFO fans.

Yeah you can.

Same thing with God fans.

Yeah....it is the same, and you can.

They wish to buy a ticket to heaven(peaceful and relatively sane believers) - that's their business.

If they would keep "their business" to themselves...then..it would be "their business"..but they don't.  That leaves folks like you and I with the onerous task of putting someone else's penis back in their pants.