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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 12:19 am
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You think a wall would have prevented the death? Are murderers unfamiliar with the concept of a ladder? What of the vast majority of non murderous immigrants? They commit crimes at a lower rate than natives...after all.
I think that you're belittling the victim and pretty much everyone else, as well as this great nation......by using it as a pretext for ignorant sloganeering. But you do you.
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 12:26 am
Instead of building a wall, we should just ban guns. If the illegal immigrant never had a gun, Kate Steinle would have been alive. If it'd save ONE life, surely it would be worth it. And unlike the wall it would neither be expensive, nor would it have negative environmental impact.
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 12:50 am
That'll never happen lol
As much as you hate illegals they are cheap workers...and at the end of the day that's what matters..
Even old trump hired foreign workers, didn't he?
One could argue Illegals are even essential for your country and to maintain your lifestyle. many sectors will just shut down overnight if you build the wall™..you're essentially reaping the benefits of the work of cheap labor of illegals... Without them businesses will find it difficult to balance their profit and lose and probably shut down.. bringing down your quality of life as well.. Lol
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 12:54 am
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Xenophobia is always self defeating, Pool. The goose-stepping Trumpsters we have are worthless little fuckers who would starve were it not for the messicans that keep them awake at night.
As a fellow member of the master race...they embarrass me. If we built a wall, I'd want it to keep -them- out. Bunch of entitled shitstains.
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 1:11 am
(November 30, 2017 at 9:54 pm)A Theist Wrote: (November 30, 2017 at 9:42 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Uhh...you do realize that American citizens kill people all the time, don't you?
'Some men are rapists. Ban all the men!!!' Uhh...then we don't need to compound that problem by looking the other way when illegals sneak across our border and commit those same crimes! Get that wall built!
I'm one of the liberals who agrees that tighter border security is a good idea.
That said, the idiotic wall is a product of a very simplistic mind who can't even comprehend the intelligence and determination of a domestic cat - never mind the ingenuity of a desperate human being. I don't know off the top of my head what the best way to tackle this situation would be but the simplistic idea of a big fucking wall over a thousand mile span is something worthy of a 5-year-old. Seriously, grow to fuck up! Real-world problems are not solved with knee-jerk ideas come up with by drunk idiots with no imagination.
Even if a stupid wall would be effective, are you aware of a recent study that the Eminent Domain cases required to seize land for the idiotic wall against unwilling private holders would carry on for decades?
Pull your simplistic head out of your simplistic ass and THINK! By the time we could even build the idiotic thing (at enormous cost), the situation would likely be changed.
I'm all for PRACTICAL measures to better secure our borders. I do agree it's a problem. More border patrol agents better equipped and with surveillance drones at their disposal might do the trick. I don't know because I haven't studied it. But a big, fucking wall? Are you serious? This ISN'T the middle ages. I doubt it would work even if it were. How hard is it to build a fucking ramp? It might seem hard to you because you are not in need but to a desperate person or a group of desperate people, it's just another hurdle to leap. If you feel you MUST achieve a certain end, you WILL find a way of achieving it because that is the Human Spirit. We do what we have to do.
The most effective way to secure our borders is probably to put pressure on the Mexican government to provide their people with a decent enough life so they won't feel compelled to flee here illegally. I'll admit I don't know what the practicality of that is but it's got to be better than the practicality of building a wall.
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 1:16 am
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Our problems are not imported. If you're interested in "practical measures"....enhanced border security isn't one of those. Our borders are already secure. I promise you, no invading army will roll through them anytime soon.
If what you actually mean by "border security" is more like "stop the poors from coming here"...the only way to do that is to make this place so shitty that even the poors wouldn't want to come here.
To that, I can only say...they're trying their best. I hope they fail.
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 2:15 am
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(December 1, 2017 at 12:26 am)Cecelia Wrote: Instead of building a wall, we should just ban guns. If the illegal immigrant never had a gun, Kate Steinle would have been alive. If it'd save ONE life, surely it would be worth it. And unlike the wall it would neither be expensive, nor would it have negative environmental impact.
The gun was stolen (or misplaced by) from a cop. So the woman ended up dead through a chain of unforeseen events because the cop lost control of his gun.
(December 1, 2017 at 1:16 am)Khemikal Wrote: Our problems are not imported. If you're interested in "practical measures"....enhanced border security isn't one of those. Our borders are already secure. I promise you, no invading army will roll through them anytime soon.
If what you actually mean by "border security" is more like "stop the poors from coming here"...the only way to do that is to make this place so shitty that even the poors wouldn't want to come here.
To that, I can only say...they're trying their best. I hope they fail.
Those illegals aliens are going to be sorry they came here when North Korea nukes us.
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 2:43 am
(November 30, 2017 at 9:32 pm)A Theist Wrote: (November 30, 2017 at 9:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: When fucktards like you can work up the same outrage for black motorists who get gunned down by cops because they have broken tail lights then I'll pay attention to your fucking bullshit whining.
Were you on the jury? Did you hear the evidence?
Much as you hate it, you don't get to hang people because they are a different color than you.
Fuck that cock sucking jury and fuck you too! That mother fucking illegal border jumper has a criminal past and was deported from this country five fucking times! Then he sneaks back into this country again and kills Kate Steinle with a stolen gun. Build that fucking wall!
Buahahahhaha!!! A Theist still thinks Trump wants to build the wall!! Trump makes racist tweets for his racist base and they fall for it, but in reality Trump is so "concerned" about the immigrant threat that he's constantly hiring new immigrants to work for him: meaning he wants them around to stay. Like this is one of the latest news:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...st-workers
Or this one
Trump secures 70 foreign workers for Mar-a-Lago
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/natio...story.html
or this one
Trump Paid $1 Million–Plus Settlement to Undocumented Immigrant Workers on Trump Tower Project
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2...oject.html
Trump would be the very last one in US who would want to block immigrants because he makes money off them and if there's one thing Trump hates the most is if someone is to part him with his money.
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 2:51 am
(December 1, 2017 at 1:16 am)Khemikal Wrote: Our problems are not imported. If you're interested in "practical measures"....enhanced border security isn't one of those. Our borders are already secure. I promise you, no invading army will roll through them anytime soon.
If what you actually mean by "border security" is more like "stop the poors from coming here"...the only way to do that is to make this place so shitty that even the poors wouldn't want to come here.
To that, I can only say...they're trying their best. I hope they fail.
Another way would be to stop helping making the places they come from so shitty. Instead of spening so much money on the "war on drugs" spend a fraction on education or a mini Marshall Programme and keep the rest for a money pool (a la Scrooge McDuck), it'll result in less people trying to cross the most inhospitable parts of your border (after a few years).
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RE: Kate Steinle's Killer Found Not Guilty
December 1, 2017 at 5:15 am
I'm not a lawyer, but to my eye, calling killing someone a murder when it was accomplished via a ricochet instead of calling it an accident of sorts is concerning.
Depraved indifference or reckless conduct of course, but deliberate murder? Just having trouble seeing that. If the prosecutors rolled the dice on over charging, well, that's the risk they take.
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