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Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 23, 2017 at 8:04 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(December 23, 2017 at 7:59 am)Tizheruk Wrote: When he can carry it inside him . He gets a say .

Abortion is taking responsibility
If she could make it without sperm than he has no say.
So if I impregnate 5 woman just so that i could feel the full pleasure and make them have an abortion than I'm taking responsability

1. Nope she's carrying it . She has all the say . When you can carry it you get to decide . Your say ended at pulling out . Beyond that her body her decision.

2. Nope their is a difference between her deciding of her own accord to get an abortion as a remedy to pregnancy . And you forcing her to get an abortion.
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#32
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 23, 2017 at 8:16 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(December 23, 2017 at 8:04 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: If she could make it without sperm than he has no say.
So if I impregnate 5 woman just so that i could feel the full pleasure and make them have an abortion than I'm taking responsability

1. Nope she's carrying it . She has all the say . When you can carry it you get to decide . Your say ended at pulling out . 

2. Nope their is a difference between her deciding of her own accord to get an abortion as a remedy to pregnancy . And you forcing her to get an abortion .
 Well I'm not stating that the decision is mine to make but the mans opinion should be taken in cosideration and I won't force her to do something that she doesn't want to do. We may have missunderstood eachother , I was making a statement against mans ignorance.
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#33
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 23, 2017 at 7:14 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(December 23, 2017 at 7:04 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Abortion should be the woman's decision who has to deal with the parasitic tissue growing inside her. Nobody else should have a say in it.

Why do you think that only the woman has a say and her partener doesn't?

If you have a skin rash, and are going around spreading it, then you do not get a say in whether those afflicted by you seek treatment or not.

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#34
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
If you want a baby, whether it has Down syndrome or not, by all means, have a baby. If you don’t want a baby, don’t have it and give it up for adoption. Orphaned children are the ones who really suffer from this. The less babies there are, the more likely a child will be adopted.
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#35
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
I'd actually rather adopt than have a baby of my own. And my brother Owen has said the same! And we reached the same conclusion independently without discussing it with each other. But then maybe we're weird.
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 23, 2017 at 5:16 am)Wololo Wrote:
(December 22, 2017 at 10:03 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
Wololo Wrote:But abortions don't kill babies. They terminate foetuses, something that happens naturally to about 60% of pregnancies.
Most people die... does your reasoning follow there as well?

Sorry can you please translate into english? I don't speak gibberish.

Well first, I think that your percentage is a bit high (from my searches). However even if it is was true, I don't think that it follows, that because of these deaths, it gives you the right to kill a human being. I don't think that you can kill someone, and justify it, by saying well they where going to die anyway or point to the many people dying every day from sickness and accidents and natural causes. That reasoning doesn't give you moral justification.

Thanks for asking for clarification.
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#37
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
As far as I know, women are not required to give a reason for having an abortion. How does something like this hold water?
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 23, 2017 at 2:49 am)Aroura Wrote:
(December 22, 2017 at 10:03 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Most people die... does your reasoning follow there as well?

MOST people die?  Do you think you aren't going to die?
All people die.

Yes, I think it is likely that I will die some day. For one who believes the Bible, there have been a very few exceptions, which is why I said most. However, if that is a problem for you, I think that the question still holds with a 100% number.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#39
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 23, 2017 at 7:59 am)Tizheruk Wrote: When he can carry it inside him . He gets a say .

Abortion is taking responsibility

This is an incredibly personal issue that nobody else should have a say in. Every couple needs to be able to work out their own thing in this regard. It's nobody else's business.
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

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#40
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
So if a woman that feels she's too young (or too old)for children gets pregnant and the fetus has signs of downs, she still has to carry it to term? So by taking away one aspect of reproductive rights, they take away another as well.

I wonder how the state senator from my district voted on this.

At least I have the comfort of knowing both the State Senator and Representative from my district voted against it.
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