ICE completes transformation into American Gestapo.

[The Grand Nudger]

That's the trouble with the gestapo.  They don't take requests from the likes of you.

If they say you're to be gassed then that;s that..and anyone who helps you is aiding and abetting a domestic enemy of the state and becomes one themselves...so they get gassed too (unless they want to be gassed, in which case they will be shot on principle).

I know you get all of this, it's for the peanut gallery.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

That's the trouble with the gestapo.  They don't take requests from the likes of you.

If they say you're to be gassed then that;s that..and anyone who helps you is aiding and abetting a domestic enemy of the state and becomes one themselves...so they get gassed too (unless they want to be gassed, in which case they will be shot on principle).

I know you get all of this, it's for the peanut gallery.

Maybe it might be better to just make everyone in the world a citizen and it would eliminate the immigration issue.  It's been a thorn of contention for 400 years and no one has done anything to solve it in all of that time.  

I see that the Israelis are threatening to jail aliens for an indefinite amount of time in their concentration camps.  They will probably gas and roast them if it costs too much to maintain the concentration camps.

[The Grand Nudger]

Some of our concepts of citizenship made alot more sense when people were property.  We erect borders to control resources, and that included the human ones (or still does, dpending on how you look at it).  


(re jews and gassing aliens - the banality of evil isn't a trope, it's a fundamental truth - if the isrealis started gassing people it would not surprise me in the least to find some consideration of a financial bottom line there...and I think the same is true about every government, frankly.)

[Seraphina]

Having recently expanded their inventory of for-profit concentration camps, and empowered by law to stop and frisk for papers at citizenship checkpoints, the American Gestapo seeks to jail any who aide and abet the lesser races, particularly if those offenders are political appointees.  

Acting ICE director Thomas Homan, who will become the permanent head of the agency if President Trump has his way, thinks it’s time to start arresting politicians in sanctuary cities and charging them with crimes.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...ities.html

Sacramento Mayor Responds to ICE Director's Arrest Threats: "You Know Where to Find Me"

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/video/378...o-find-me/

Thankfully I live in the republic of California, the world's sixth largest economy partly because of - not in spite of - immigrants.

Also, the Golden State's governor - Jerry "We'll launch our own damn climate research satellites" Brown would have much the same response to Trump's jack-booted thugs.

-Teresa

[CapnAwesome]

Why do people always have to jump to the Nazi thing. Give it a rest.

[The Grand Nudger]

IDK Cap, why -did- they jump to the Nazi thing?  You'd think they'd have figured out it was bad pr by now. That's one of the things that mystifies me about these guys. That they're getting up to heinous shit is unsurprising. We've all seen the bill of sale. Most of the time, however, a basic level of political comptetency can be counted on. "Don't do nazi shit" has to be pretty high on a politicians list of questionable career decisions...and yet.....

[CapnAwesome]

That's the trouble with the gestapo.  They don't take requests from the likes of you.

If they say you're to be gassed then that;s that..and anyone who helps you is aiding and abetting a domestic enemy of the state and becomes one themselves...so they get gassed too (unless they want to be gassed, in which case they will be shot on principle).

I know you get all of this, it's for the peanut gallery.

Good thing Ice isn't gassing people, nor does it look like they will at all. You can criticize people without using Nazi comparison you know.

---

IDK Cap, why -did- they jump to the Nazi thing?  You'd think they'd have figured out it was bad pr by now. That;s one of the things that mystifies me about these guys. That they;re getting up to heinous shit is unsurprising. We've all seen the bill of sale. Most of the time, however, a basic level of political comptetency can be counted on. "Don't do nazi shit" has to be pretty high on a politicians list of questionable career decisions...and yet.....

They didn't, it's just in the minds of people who don't like them that they are Nazis and sort of an insult to people who know what the Nazis were actually like.

[The Grand Nudger]

Good thing Ice isn't gassing people, nor does it look like they will at all. You can criticize people without using Nazi comparison you know.

The gestapo was operating for years before gassings began.  I don't think we''ll ever quite get to gassings myself, but that doesn't make it any less accurate of a comparison.  It was created in 33, and the first gassing was with a small mobile van unit in 41.  The program got...out of hand, quickly thereafter. For nearly a decade the gestapo was cheifly involved in apprehending illegals and political dissidents, and particularly in apprehending those who aided illegals or political dissidents either behind the veneer of their "legitimate" citizenry or by posing as legitimate citizens.

It was a crime, you see, to harbor the jew - and it was about time they started charging people with it.

They didn't, it's just in the minds of people who don't like them that they are Nazis and sort of an insult to people who know what the Nazis were actually like.

If you say so.

[CapnAwesome]

Good thing Ice isn't gassing people, nor does it look like they will at all. You can criticize people without using Nazi comparison you know.

The gestapo was operating for years before gassings began.  I don't think we''ll ever quite get to gassings myself, but that doesn't make it any less accurate of a comparison.  It was created in 33, and the first gassing was with a small mobile van unit in 41. 

They didn't, it's just in the minds of people who don't like them that they are Nazis and sort of an insult to people who know what the Nazis were actually like.

If you say so.

But the Gestapo took 0 Time to start murdering Hitler's opposition in his own party in the night of the long knives. They took 0 Time the ghettoize Jewish populations, to murder political opposition, to fake a terrorist attack and start world war two, to enforce the banning of political parties, to destroy the German democracy, to murder the disabled, to destroy Jewish businesses. That was all done pretty quick after 33 when Hitler formed the Gestapo and long before gassing people started.

One guy, who doesn't have the power to do what he want, saying that they should arrest politicians who don't enforce immigration laws (which won't happen anyway) does not "complete a transformation into the Gestapo "

Totally insulting to those who were murdered by the real Gestapo.

I'm all for criticizing Ice and Trump, but the Nazi comparisons have got to go. It's part of why the left keeps losing elections, because they keep calling pretty normal political opinions and the normal people who have them "Nazis " and guess what, people are not going to vote for someone who calls them, or their grandma a Nazi.

[The Grand Nudger]

But the Gestapo took 0 Time to start murdering Hitler's opposition in his own party in the night of the long knives.  They took 0 Time the ghettoize Jewish populations, to murder political opposition,  to fake a terrorist attack and start world war two, to enforce the banning of political parties, to destroy the German democracy, to murder the disabled, to destroy Jewish businesses. That was all done pretty quick after 33 when Hitler formed the Gestapo and long before gassing people started.

Come now, it took more time than zero time..and our Admin is just getting started.  Conveniently, some of that has already been accomplished in the case of the dirty browns and work is being done on banning democrats.  We've already shot past the "that clown will never win": phase...to the Pence Von Papen Phase, now we're getting a gestapo trial bubble over apprehending dissidents who harbor illegal people. 

One guy, who doesn't have the power to do what he want, saying that they should arrest politicians who don't enforce immigration laws (which won't happen anyway) does not "complete a transformation into the Gestapo "

Are you talking about hitler pre 33 here, or ICE?  

Totally insulting to those who were murdered by the real Gestapo.

If you say so.  I'm just noting similarities between the nazi gestapo and the american gestapo.  I expect differences.  70 years and a continent away, after all.

I'm all for criticizing Ice and Trump, but the Nazi comparisons have got to go. It's part of why the left keeps losing elections, because they keep calling pretty normal political opinions and the normal people who have them "Nazis " and guess what, people are not going to vote for someone who calls them, or their grandma a Nazi.

"Stop accurately comparing the admin to nazis when they do nazi shit, or dems will lose" - so what?  That makes it inconvenient, not inaccurate.  What about this admin, or that mans particular opinion..is "normal"?

You mean, The New Normal...here in era of The New Cruelty?