Peanut Gallery Thread for Explain This #1: Belief vs. Knowledge

[GrandizerII]

Here's a Peanut Gallery thread to discuss answers posted in the corresponding "Explain This" thread:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-52870.html

DLJ, you have the right idea when it comes to style and substance. I personally haven't given you kudos because I honestly have a hard time really understanding the post. I understand things here and there, but need to read it again at a later time for better understanding.

Also, from what I have seen, Boru is the only one so far who has directly addressed every part of the question (including the "sun rising tomorrow part"), and I wish more people not only address every part of the question but come up with illustrative examples.

I say spice things up, be creative, use your imagination. Pictures and diagrams will do wonders and will probably increase the odds of a getting a kudos (I think).

What are your thoughts?

[mlmooney89]

When reading the instructions it came across as answer the main question and it was like the sun part was an example we could go off. Would you like us to learn and going forward answer all parts of the original post, edit our comments to include the sun answer, or add another comment?

[Joods]

I am so confused.

[brewer]

I wasn't smart enough to contribute.

[GrandizerII]

When reading the instructions it came across as answer the main question and it was like the sun part was an example we could go off. Would you like us to learn and going forward answer all parts of the original post, edit our comments to include the sun answer, or add another comment?

I see where I may have gone wrong/misleading. But just to be clear, you don't really have to answer all the parts if you're satisfied with your answer. After all, it's not me who decides who has great answers or not, but rather the forum consensus.

Are you able to edit your original answer? If so, feel free to edit as much as you want.

[Catholic_Lady]

What i saw some people say that i find false is that "belief" is when you want it to be true. Thats not so at all. Belief is simply when you think something might be true, regardless of whether you want it to be or not.

Example: doctor says to patient after some examination, "I believe you may have cancer," ....but further testing is needed to be 100% certain. Obviously he doesn't want his patient to have cancer. He just believes he might.

[mlmooney89]

What i saw some people say that i find false is that "belief" is when you want it to be true. Thats not so at all. Belief is simply when you think something might be true, regardless of whether you want it to be or not.

Example: doctor says to patient after some examination, "I believe you may have cancer," ....but further testing is needed to be 100% certain. Obviously he doesn't want his patient to have cancer. He just believes he might.

Want may have been the wrong word. Still it's hard to differentiate because to me knowledge is also what you think. Lol this is harder than I thought it would be. It's like I know the difference in my head but can put it into words

[Catholic_Lady]

What i saw some people say that i find false is that "belief" is when you want it to be true. Thats not so at all. Belief is simply when you think something might be true, regardless of whether you want it to be or not.

Example: doctor says to patient after some examination, "I believe you may have cancer," ....but further testing is needed to be 100% certain. Obviously he doesn't want his patient to have cancer. He just believes he might.

Want may have been the wrong word. Still it's hard to differentiate because to me knowledge is also what you think. Lol this is harder than I thought it would be. It's like I know the difference in my head but can put it into words

I would say knowledge means it is a 100% obvious/ proven fact. Like, I have knowledge that I am female. The grass is green. 2+2=4. Etc.

Belief is when it is not 100% proven fact. I believe my husband loves me, I believe God exists, I believe we evolved from apes, etc.

[mlmooney89]

Want may have been the wrong word. Still it's hard to differentiate because to me knowledge is also what you think. Lol this is harder than I thought it would be. It's like I know the difference in my head but can put it into words

I would say knowledge means it is a 100% obvious/ proven fact. Like, I have knowledge that I am female. The grass is green. 2+2=4. Etc.

Belief is when it is not 100% proven fact. I believe my husband loves me, I believe God exists, I believe we evolved from apes, etc.

But you can say it's to the best of my knowledge and that doesn't make it fact it just means you are telling something you believe is based in fact

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Here's a Peanut Gallery thread to discuss answers posted in the corresponding "Explain This" thread:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-52870.html

DLJ, you have the right idea when it comes to style and substance. I personally haven't given you kudos because I honestly have a hard time really understanding the post. I understand things here and there, but need to read it again at a later time for better understanding.

Also, from what I have seen, Boru is the only one so far who has directly addressed every part of the question (including the "sun rising tomorrow part"), and I wish more people not only address every part of the question but come up with illustrative examples.

I say spice things up, be creative, use your imagination. Pictures and diagrams will do wonders and will probably increase the odds of a getting a kudos (I think).

What are your thoughts?

I think we should declare me the winner and move on. 

Boru