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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Quote:That is very convenient for you isn't it?

Nope very inconvenient actually . But that's aside the fact 

Quote: Your whole premise is based on happenstance. 
Nope you can keep repeating the bullshit it does not change it's status as bullshit .


Quote:You do not have any testable evidence that life began on earth when conditions were just right yet you expect proof from me.
Yes we do beyond reasonable doubt . You on the other hand have  fuck all evidence of the intelligent design of life at any time .

Quote:The information you are looking for is here: https://iands.org/
I asked for evidence not garbage  Dodgy
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 11, 2018 at 9:39 am)He lives Wrote:
(March 11, 2018 at 8:40 am)Tizheruk Wrote: The burden is on you to prove intelligent design not for us to prove that it's not .

That is very convenient for you isn't it? Your whole premise is based on happenstance. You do not have any testable evidence that life began on earth when conditions were just right yet you expect proof from me.

Whine all you want, but you still need to demonstrate intelligent design. A negative argument against abiogenesis is nothing more than an argument from ignorance.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
His evidence is a circle jerk of morons quacks and loons  Dodgy
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 11, 2018 at 9:47 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:That is very convenient for you isn't it?

Nope very inconvenient actually . But that's aside the fact 

Quote: Your whole premise is based on happenstance. 
Nope you can keep repeating the bullshit it does not change it's status as bullshit .


Quote:You do not have any testable evidence that life began on earth when conditions were just right yet you expect proof from me.
Yes we do beyond reasonable doubt . You on the other hand have  fuck all evidence of the intelligent design of life at any time .

Quote:The information you are looking for is here: https://iands.org/
I asked for evidence not garbage  Dodgy

The reason I came to this forum was to let everyone know that there is no way to prove that intelligent design or abiogenesis is correct. One must have faith that one or the other is correct. I have stated my reasoning and you have stated yours. By the way IANDS is not garbage. IANDS has been around many years and is a very reputable international organization. They have done a huge amount of research all over the world.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 11, 2018 at 8:36 am)He lives Wrote:
(March 11, 2018 at 2:26 am)Astreja Wrote: I would demand that you provide testable neurological evidence for your claim.  (Don't try to bullshit me, either -- I work in medicine and am knowledgeable about neuroscience.)

Here is a link: https://www.consciouslifestylemag.com/no...the-brain/

Evidence rejected as inadequate.  Not peer-reviewed and not neuroscience and not testable, either; it's just psychology mixed up with religious woo-woo.

If it isn't from a peer-reviewed neurology journal, you might as well not bother.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
This came up on another thread:

Emulating Jesus to the extent of celebrating the Sabbath when He did:

sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.


Damn few do, seems like a natch' to me however. I must be missing something, but there has to a church of Christians in the US SOMEWHERE that observes sunset Friday to sunset Saturday Sabbaths.

Why not worship on Jesus' schedule ?????
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 11, 2018 at 5:00 pm)Astreja Wrote: Evidence rejected as inadequate.  Not peer-reviewed and not neuroscience and not testable, either; it's just psychology mixed up with religious woo-woo.

If it isn't from a peer-reviewed neurology journal, you might as well not bother.

That does not surprise me that you rejected this because it is not peer reviewed, so here is one just for you: https://iands.org/component/finder/searc...Itemid=673



Resources on Near-Death and Related Experiences

are available from the IANDS Store. Journal of Near-Death Studies The Journal of Near-Death Studies is the only peer-reviewed scholarly journal...........
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Does anyone here have a link to a scholarly peer-reviewed paper that offers proof that near death experiences correspond to after death experiences? If not, I see no reason to place any credence in NDEs.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 10, 2018 at 6:32 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 10, 2018 at 2:36 pm)Cod Wrote: Stop saying happenstance right now.

Why, that is what it is.

Yeah... what do you call your alleged "god" playing in the fucking dirt?
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 11, 2018 at 7:25 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 11, 2018 at 5:00 pm)Astreja Wrote: Evidence rejected as inadequate.  Not peer-reviewed and not neuroscience and not testable, either; it's just psychology mixed up with religious woo-woo.

If it isn't from a peer-reviewed neurology journal, you might as well not bother.

That does not surprise me that you rejected this because it is not peer reviewed, so here is one just for you: https://iands.org/component/finder/searc...Itemid=673



Resources on Near-Death and Related Experiences

are available from the IANDS Store. Journal of Near-Death Studies The Journal of Near-Death Studies is the only peer-reviewed scholarly journal...........

Peer-reviewed by whom? Peer-reviewed does not always mean scientific.
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