Man Uses $1m Win To Finally Visit Doctor, Gets Terminal Cancer Diagnosis, Dies

[The Grand Nudger]

I wouldn't mind either - if it were accompanied by a ban on tobacco and sugar.

Their lobbyists would hunt you down and kill you.  Those are the kinds of whores you love, remember?

A sin taxer, lol.  Typical.  Tell you what, lets get an insurance adjuster in on it and everything the insurance companies would use to deny any claim or set a risk on, let's just make it illegal.

I've got a better idea. Let's stop thinking of reasons not to go single payer and just do it...like all those other shitholes that manage with a fraction of our resources. That, would be american greatness.

[Aegon]

You should make one that says: Sorry Mom, when the government pays for health care it gets rationed, and  there wasn't enough for you:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countri...ealth-care

When Sharon Shamblaw was diagnosed last summer with a form of blood cancer that could only be treated with a particular stem cell transplant, the search for a donor began. A Toronto hospital, 100 miles east of her home in St. Mary's, Ontario, and one of three facilities in the province that could provide the life-saving treatment, had an eight-month waiting list for transplants.

Four months after her diagnosis, Shamblaw headed to Buffalo, New York, for treatment. But it was too late. She died at the age of 46, leaving behind a husband and three children, as detailed by the Toronto Star.

Tens of thousands of Canadians seek helath care - at their own expense - outside the country each year:

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/numb...tudy-finds

In 2014, 52,513 Canadians travelled beyond our borders to seek medical treatment, compared with 41,838 in 2013. The numbers suggest that the Canadian health care system could not comply with the needs and demands of a substantial number of Canadian patients, according to the study.

So guess what...Canada, or any country with "universal" health care, actually has a two-tiered system. The poor sit on waiting lists to get mediocre service. Those with money just go somewhere else. If the US adopts such a system (which I don't actually oppose), the same would happen.

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Timmy: I have 13 tickets, now. Is that enough?
 Man behind the counter: Oh, sorry Timmy, but you need 15 tickets to live.

Yep, good example of Canadian health care.

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A-M loves the republicunt health care plan.  That is, "if you're rich enough to go to a doctor you can.  Otherwise, fucking die you poor piece of trash."  No one will ever confuse you with a humanitarian, A-M.

As opposed to the Democunt health care plan, which is: "if you're rich enough to go to a doctor you can.  Otherwise, fucking die you poor piece of trash."

Or the Canadian: "if you live long enough for your turn to come up, you can go to a doctor. Otherwise, die if you're poor, go to America if you can afford it."

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Lol. TIL that all health insurance plans are equal, I guess. I'll tell you right now that if it weren't for Medicare Part B I wouldn't have been able to afford dialysis treatments or a kidney transplant. Good ol Nixon gave kidney patients socialism in the 70s. Other people aren't so lucky.

I don't oppose Medicare.

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Nobody, including you, should be allowed to dictate who lives and who dies by acting like certain people deserve access to health care and others don't.

But that's exactly what happens with universal health care. The government decides what resources to devote to healthcare, that amount isn't enough, and people die on waiting lists.

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Of course, the difference is that gun rights advocates aren't saying that everyone has a right to a gun from the government.

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What happens to everyone who's not so lucky to have a job that pays for health insurance?

Why is everything luck with you guys? Never heard of cause and effect?

Important to note that single payer is not the only universal health care system

[Joods]

A-M loves the republicunt health care plan.  That is, "if you're rich enough to go to a doctor you can.  Otherwise, fucking die you poor piece of trash."  No one will ever confuse you with a humanitarian, A-M.

Rich? When I was 23 I got a job at a convenience store that gave me health insurance. If you work harder than other people, it's not that tough to have health insurance.

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I'm gonna call bs on this. In 2016 my other half had to pay $42 a WEEK for health care just for himself. In addition to that, he was paying nearly a grand a month in child support. During weeks where he got a straight 40 hours per week, he was lucky if he got to see $350 a week out of his pay check.

In 2017, we got equal custody of the kids but he still wasn't allowed to either child on his tax returns. He also was still paying child support to the tun of $400 a week. AND he was still paying $42 a week for health insurance for himself. The kids have Chip. Do you know how much it costs to raise two teenage boys when you have then half the time and you still have to pay their mother child support which she either spends on weed, booze or CAM cards? Oh in addition to that, she was also taking the oldest son's SSI money and spending it on herself as well. 

We barely got by. We still barely get by, but we now have the kids every week and she gets them two weekends a month. She also has to pay child support, but it isn't nearly the same amount as what my other half had to pay when she had the kids the majority of the time. 

Try having a $600 a month grocery bill, three teenagers, two of which are involved in sports and ALL of them are growing and constantly need things. My other half can't even get to the doctors because he has expensive co-pays that must be paid at the time of the appointment. We can't afford that. He also has to pay a lot of OOP costs on his medications. 

My other half busts his ass at work and I can tell you that unless he gets overtime, his pay barely covers all of our expenses. I work, but it isn't enough. Our budget is so tight it squeaks. Thankfully we are finally getting a second car so he can venture out of the local area and try to find a better paying job. But don't you ever say that everyone can afford health insurance if they work hard because you are full of shit. 

There are hundreds of thousands of families that fall under the "working poor" category. We are such a family. Five people and we struggle. Things will eventually get better, but we have kids in 8th, 9th and 10th grades. All of them plan on going to college. All of them have needs and wants. We do what we can that falls within our means, but we also have no extra money to put away towards retirement at the moment. I am 46 and he is 43. At this rate, he's going to be working in to his mid 70's, when he should be enjoying his retirement.

[Abaddon_ire]

Sigh. Some years ago I had what I thought was a strained calf muscle, but it was persistent. Eventually, I went to my local doc. Within minutes, I found myself in ICU, my feet did not touch the floor. Literally the stretcher bashed through doors like the movies. The result? DVT and you are lucky to be alive, have six months of blood thinners.

The odd thing is that not once did anyone ask for my med insurance number at any point even though I have it.

In third world America I would have simply been told to go die in a fire

[Amarok]

Sigh. Some years ago I had what I thought was a strained calf muscle, but it was persistent. Eventually, I went  to my local doc. Within minutes, I found myself in ICU, my feet did not touch the floor. Literally the stretcher bashed through doors like the movies. The result? DVT and you are lucky to be alive, have six months of blood thinners.

The odd thing is that not once did anyone ask for my med insurance number at any point even though I have it.

In third world America I would have simply been told to go die in a fire

Agreed i have used the medical system of a few countries over the years and i confidently say the American system was ass . Doctors acted more like my illness was an  inconvenience for them.. Hospital was fuck slow  as as shit . And when i got back to canada turns out the fuckers screwed up my tests so i had to take them again .

I know Beta male will whine that i'm using antidotes i don't give a shit . On and my cartoons are 100% the american system not real medical system .

[LadyForCamus]

Rich? When I was 23 I got a job at a convenience store that gave me health insurance. If you work harder than other people, it's not that tough to have health insurance.

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I'm gonna call bs on this. In 2016 my other half had to pay $42 a WEEK for health care just for himself. In addition to that, he was paying nearly a grand a month in child support. During weeks where he got a straight 40 hours per week, he was lucky if he got to see $350 a week out of his pay check.

In 2017, we got equal custody of the kids but he still wasn't allowed to either child on his tax returns. He also was still paying child support to the tun of $400 a week. AND he was still paying $42 a week for health insurance for himself. The kids have Chip. Do you know how much it costs to raise two teenage boys when you have then half the time and you still have to pay their mother child support which she either spends on weed, booze or CAM cards? Oh in addition to that, she was also taking the oldest son's SSI money and spending it on herself as well. 

We barely got by. We still barely get by, but we now have the kids every week and she gets them two weekends a month. She also has to pay child support, but it isn't nearly the same amount as what my other half had to pay when she had the kids the majority of the time. 

Try having a $600 a month grocery bill, three teenagers, two of which are involved in sports and ALL of them are growing and constantly need things. My other half can't even get to the doctors because he has expensive co-pays that must be paid at the time of the appointment. We can't afford that. He also has to pay a lot of OOP costs on his medications. 

My other half busts his ass at work and I can tell you that unless he gets overtime, his pay barely covers all of our expenses. I work, but it isn't enough. Our budget is so tight it squeaks. Thankfully we are finally getting a second car so he can venture out of the local area and try to find a better paying job. But don't you ever say that everyone can afford health insurance if they work hard because you are full of shit. 

There are hundreds of thousands of families that fall under the "working poor" category. We are such a family. Five people and we struggle. Things will eventually get better, but we have kids in 8th, 9th and 10th grades. All of them plan on going to college. All of them have needs and wants. We do what we can that falls within our means, but we also have no extra money to put away towards retirement at the moment. I am 46 and he is 43. At this rate, he's going to be working in to his mid 70's, when he should be enjoying his retirement.

You shouldn’t have done it, Joods. 

Count down to AM telling you it’s all your fault; you shouldn’t have had kids if you couldn’t afford it, in 3...2...1...



One of the full time jobs I had in my early 20’s, before I went back to school, took one hundred dollars a week out of my paycheck for health insurance, when my total take home was only like, $400/week.  I chose no insurance over not being able to buy groceries.

[Joods]

Too bad our kids can't go back to where they came from, right?

Oh wait. I'm a stepmom to the boys.

*derp*

[GrandizerII]

I don't envy you guys one bit. So glad I live in Australia.

[John V]

I've had two family members die from rheumatoid arthritis. Hate to say it, but doctors make it worse.

yeah... they keep you alive to live with it!
The bastards!

The mom did get to 70. Her son died in his fifties.

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You have not proven it's out of date . 

WTF, I gave stats from 2014 - 16. Why do you lie?

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Their lobbyists would hunt you down and kill you.  Those are the kinds of whores you love, remember?

No, I don't. I'm not the silly caricature you have in your head.

I'm not opposed to universal health care. I just recognize that it's not the panacea that you guys think it is.

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I'm gonna call bs on this. In 2016 my other half had to pay $42 a WEEK for health care just for himself. In addition to that, he was paying nearly a grand a month in child support. During weeks where he got a straight 40 hours per week, he was lucky if he got to see $350 a week out of his pay check.

In 2017, we got equal custody of the kids but he still wasn't allowed to either child on his tax returns. He also was still paying child support to the tun of $400 a week. AND he was still paying $42 a week for health insurance for himself. The kids have Chip. Do you know how much it costs to raise two teenage boys when you have then half the time and you still have to pay their mother child support which she either spends on weed, booze or CAM cards? Oh in addition to that, she was also taking the oldest son's SSI money and spending it on herself as well. 

We barely got by. We still barely get by, but we now have the kids every week and she gets them two weekends a month. She also has to pay child support, but it isn't nearly the same amount as what my other half had to pay when she had the kids the majority of the time. 

Try having a $600 a month grocery bill, three teenagers, two of which are involved in sports and ALL of them are growing and constantly need things. My other half can't even get to the doctors because he has expensive co-pays that must be paid at the time of the appointment. We can't afford that. He also has to pay a lot of OOP costs on his medications. 

My other half busts his ass at work and I can tell you that unless he gets overtime, his pay barely covers all of our expenses. I work, but it isn't enough. Our budget is so tight it squeaks. Thankfully we are finally getting a second car so he can venture out of the local area and try to find a better paying job. But don't you ever say that everyone can afford health insurance if they work hard because you are full of shit. 

There are hundreds of thousands of families that fall under the "working poor" category. We are such a family. Five people and we struggle. Things will eventually get better, but we have kids in 8th, 9th and 10th grades. All of them plan on going to college. All of them have needs and wants. We do what we can that falls within our means, but we also have no extra money to put away towards retirement at the moment. I am 46 and he is 43. At this rate, he's going to be working in to his mid 70's, when he should be enjoying his retirement.

That's an indictment of divorce or out-of-wedlock children, not health costs.

[The Grand Nudger]

By definition..universal healthcare is a panacea to the problem of people who do not have access to healthcare.  

Stop.