Why am I still worrying about coming out as atheist?

[The Valkyrie]

"Mum, dad, I'm going to have a sex change so Ican marry the (gender) of my dreams so ee can live in sin as a same sex couple. Then we're going to join a devil worshipping cult where we're going to spend all our time having wild orgies with animals! Just kidding. I'm an atheist!"

[The Grand Nudger]

I know you desperately want atheism to be a positive claim so you can shift the burden to others. After all, that's an incredibly heavy load.

Not really, lol.  Takes me about as long as it does to demonstrate that tinkerbell isn't a fairy that flits all over london snatching male children.
(wtf was wrong with her anyway...?)



@OP, it's your own business, you share it or don't share it with whomever you choose, for whatever reason you choose, or for no reason at all.

[Cyberman]

"Mum, dad, I'm going to have a sex change so Ican marry the (gender) of my dreams so ee can live in sin as a same sex couple. Then we're going to join a devil worshipping cult where we're going to spend all our time having wild orgies with animals! Just kidding. I'm an atheist!"

I'll repeat again the story of my friend from another forum, who started out as a rabid creationist literalist and gradually woke up. When he finally got the courage to tell his family he was now an atheist, his mother said "Is that all? I thought you were going to tell me you're gay, like your brother".

[Jehanne]

That was also my journey, from rabid, right-wing Christian evangelical, creationistist fundamentalist to meek & mild atheist.

[Little Rik]

Atheism is a guess.

And your concept of atheism is a myth and evidence for your supreme lack of imagination.

Despite your bullshit claims, atheism is not a claim that gawd doesn't exist. It's the rational answer of any who do not hold a gawd belief, whether they believe there are no gawds or not.

I know you desperately want atheism to be a positive claim so you can shift the burden to others. After all, that's an incredibly heavy load. Unfortunately for you, it simply isn't.

Now, would you kindly quit being a fucking asshole about it?!?

Rational?  

Are you kidding me?  
You clearly don't know what the word rational means.  
How on earth can you think that the universe doesn't need a creator and an operator and then say that you are a rational person?
Logic tell us that nothing come from nothing so to think that the universe doesn't need a creator is the opposite of logic therefore atheists are not rational.  

[The Grand Nudger]

You say silly shit with regularity and still consider yourself rational, it seems like you'd know the answer to that question better than anyone.

[Little Rik]

You say silly shit with regularity and still consider yourself rational, it seems like you'd know the answer to that question better than anyone.

Silly sh it?  

As far as you guys fail to contradict me with some valid arguments I come out with all my feathers intact while you lose yours and that happen 99% of the time.  

[The Industrial Atheist]

And your concept of atheism is a myth and evidence for your supreme lack of imagination.

Despite your bullshit claims, atheism is not a claim that gawd doesn't exist. It's the rational answer of any who do not hold a gawd belief, whether they believe there are no gawds or not.

I know you desperately want atheism to be a positive claim so you can shift the burden to others. After all, that's an incredibly heavy load. Unfortunately for you, it simply isn't.

Now, would you kindly quit being a fucking asshole about it?!?

Rational?  

Are you kidding me?  
You clearly don't know what the word rational means.  
How on earth can you think that the universe doesn't need a creator and an operator and then say that you are a rational person?
Logic tell us that nothing come from nothing so to think that the universe doesn't need a creator is the opposite of logic therefore atheists are not rational.  

If something doesn't come from nothing where did the creator come from? The only thing adding a creator does is shift things back a bit.

[vulcanlogician]

You say silly shit with regularity and still consider yourself rational, it seems like you'd know the answer to that question better than anyone.

Khem, I think you missed the thrust of Rik's argument. It's easy to overlook Rik's brilliance. Part of the problem is Rik's fault though. He failed to present his argument formally, and that makes all the difference when one's position is as nuanced as Rik's. Let me help him out:

Premise 1: 

Premise 2: 

Therefore: 

I'm sure you agree with me that it is nearly impossible to formulate an objection to this argument. A testament to Rik's brilliance.

[Little Rik]

Rational?  

Are you kidding me?  
You clearly don't know what the word rational means.  
How on earth can you think that the universe doesn't need a creator and an operator and then say that you are a rational person?
Logic tell us that nothing come from nothing so to think that the universe doesn't need a creator is the opposite of logic therefore atheists are not rational.  

If something doesn't come from nothing where did the creator come from? The only thing adding a creator does is shift things back a bit.

Mysteries will unfold as you learn.
For a little kid is a big mystery how scientists created a rocket able to land on the moon but as he-she will grow up he will learn how.

For us humans equipped with only a unidimensional mind obviously is impossible to understand a multidimensional mind such as God.
Again as we go along we will know.
Why should I worry at this stage and why a small kid should worry about rocket science?

All I am worry at this stage is what I know and what I know is that nothing that I know come from nothing.
God I still do not know 100% or even 1% so why should I speculate on Him?  

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You say silly shit with regularity and still consider yourself rational, it seems like you'd know the answer to that question better than anyone.

Khem, I think you missed the thrust of Rik's argument. It's easy to overlook Rik's brilliance. Part of the problem is Rik's fault though. He failed to present his argument formally, and that makes all the difference when one's position is as nuanced as Rik's. Let me help him out:

Premise 1: 

Premise 2: 

Therefore: 

I'm sure you agree with me that it is nearly impossible to formulate an objection to this argument. A testament to Rik's brilliance.

That is bizarre that all this come from someone that after reading tons of books still doesn't know where love for knowledge eventually will lead to.