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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 18, 2018 at 6:25 pm
(February 18, 2018 at 6:09 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (February 18, 2018 at 9:39 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Easy to type in a forum, mighty difficult to do when you're wondering if you'll make this month's rent. You're a counselor. Surely you're aware of Maslow's hierarchy.
And that is something for you to mandate? How would you address the issue? Another issue Maslow's hierarchy has as pointed out by Noam Chomsky and others comes with some dubious socioeconomic assumption especially the top of the pyramid .I dare say it seems somewhat capitalist at the top in what it regards are self actualization. And all to often Maslow's students and proponents ignore things like technology such as social media . Don't get me wrong i have a high degree of respect for Maslow just like i have great respect for B. F skinner , Carl Rogers , Jean Paiget , But their ideas had flaws and so does Maslow,s and i'll admit i'm a bit of a skeptic .
Humanism, much like psychodynamics, isnt well-grounded in science.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm
(February 18, 2018 at 6:02 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (February 18, 2018 at 5:52 pm)dyresand Wrote: This and others can be avoided and even ones in the past if people have gotten the mental care they needed.
All of this can be avoided with proper mental care in the U.S. but it's just never going to happen.
You can't catch everyone before they pop. Perfectly normal guy in Miami back in 1975, sitting on the front porch, wife and mother with him. Well, their heads were with him. Never a clue before he tipped.
I get that but in this case it could have been prevented.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 18, 2018 at 6:30 pm
(February 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm)dyresand Wrote: (February 18, 2018 at 6:02 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You can't catch everyone before they pop. Perfectly normal guy in Miami back in 1975, sitting on the front porch, wife and mother with him. Well, their heads were with him. Never a clue before he tipped.
I get that but in this case it could have been prevented.
No, its NOT just mental illness. It takes a lot more than that. Fix the society first, then fix the individuals.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 18, 2018 at 6:43 pm
(February 18, 2018 at 6:30 pm)Grandizer Wrote: (February 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm)dyresand Wrote: I get that but in this case it could have been prevented.
No, its NOT just mental illness. It takes a lot more than that. Fix the society first, then fix the individuals.
For the American society to be a better place a lot of change needs to happen. And generationally speaking it is.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 18, 2018 at 7:10 pm
(February 18, 2018 at 6:10 pm)Shell B Wrote: [quote pid='1702189' dateline='1518716199']
I'm torn because I really do believe in the sentiment that people shouldn't be unarmed while the government and law enforcement are armed to the teeth.
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Last time you saw a LEO in armor? Carrying a missile launcher?
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 18, 2018 at 7:21 pm
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 19, 2018 at 12:40 am
You know what, I'm going to steal something someone said on twitter. Because I liked it enough.
No, Gun Control won't totally eliminate gun deaths or murder. Just like Condoms won't always prevent pregnancy or STD's. Doesn't make either of them any less of a good idea.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 19, 2018 at 12:46 am
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(February 18, 2018 at 7:10 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (February 18, 2018 at 6:10 pm)Shell B Wrote: [quote pid='1702189' dateline='1518716199']
I'm torn because I really do believe in the sentiment that people shouldn't be unarmed while the government and law enforcement are armed to the teeth.
Last time you saw a LEO in armor? Carrying a missile launcher?
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I lived on a military base. So, ten years ago?
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 19, 2018 at 12:52 am
(February 18, 2018 at 6:09 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (February 18, 2018 at 9:39 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Easy to type in a forum, mighty difficult to do when you're wondering if you'll make this month's rent. You're a counselor. Surely you're aware of Maslow's hierarchy.
And that is something for you to mandate? How would you address the issue? Another issue Maslow's hierarchy has as pointed out by Noam Chomsky and others comes with some dubious socioeconomic assumption especially the top of the pyramid .I dare say it seems somewhat capitalist at the top in what it regards are self actualization. And all to often Maslow's students and proponents ignore things like technology such as social media . Don't get me wrong i have a high degree of respect for Maslow just like i have great respect for B. F skinner , Carl Rogers , Jean Paiget , But their ideas had flaws and so does Maslow,s and i'll admit i'm a bit of a skeptic .
It's hard to worry about moving to a safer nieghborhood when you're worried about eating tonight.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 19, 2018 at 12:54 am
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(February 19, 2018 at 12:52 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (February 18, 2018 at 6:09 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Another issue Maslow's hierarchy has as pointed out by Noam Chomsky and others comes with some dubious socioeconomic assumption especially the top of the pyramid .I dare say it seems somewhat capitalist at the top in what it regards are self actualization. And all to often Maslow's students and proponents ignore things like technology such as social media . Don't get me wrong i have a high degree of respect for Maslow just like i have great respect for B. F skinner , Carl Rogers , Jean Paiget , But their ideas had flaws and so does Maslow,s and i'll admit i'm a bit of a skeptic .
It's hard to worry about moving to a safer nieghborhood when you're worried about eating tonight. And eating will not do you much good if your dead . My friend .
Plus i point out the economic benefit of a safe neighbourhood .
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