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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 11:54 am
There is an entire world outside of America, almost none of which have problems with mass shootings. It's not like America has to figure out this problem by itself.
Maybe America should follow the example of first world countries where no one would even contemplate having guns in schools and see how they managed it.
Or you can all just debate it as if it's an undiscovered country that you are contemplating heading into.
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 11:54 am
(February 22, 2018 at 11:53 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: (February 22, 2018 at 11:48 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: You are wrong on both counts. First, I am not pro-gun; but rather, believe that self-defense is a basic human right and having sufficient means to do so is a necessary part of protecting that right. Second, Christianity, in the main, teaches not to initiate violence. There is no prohibition against protecting yourself, except maybe for Quakers and a few other pacifist sects. Yeah it is but you don't need guns to do that , you can' solve this problem with guards , it won't help.
If you aren't talking about guns it is not my fault , this thread is about them .
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 11:56 am
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(February 22, 2018 at 11:46 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: (February 22, 2018 at 11:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This is the annoying thing about some of you people. You can't seem to grasp that your thinking doesn't have to be mutually exclussive. I say it may be a good idea to have an armed guard or 2 for added security in public schools, and you automatically assume I'm pro guns or pro violence.
Do I think we need stricter gun laws? Absolutely! Let me make that clear: WE NEED STRICTER GUN LAWS.
...But that doesn't mean having an armed security guard as an added protection for our kids isn't a good idea. We can support both, you know.
The fact is that with stricter gun laws you wouldn't need armed guards.
This thread is about the Presidents ideea of reducing shootings , you can understand why I thinked that this was your ideea of solving the problem.
Edit: I can't grasp how an armed guard would help , if I want to start a shooting at a school I'll just take him out first and than start the killing spree.
Maybe eventually we wouldn't, but if gun laws changed tomorrow, that doesn't mean the threat would be completely eliminated overnight. I really don't see why you take such issue with an added protection until/if we get to that point.
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 11:56 am
(February 22, 2018 at 11:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: WE NEED STRICTER GUN LAWS.
We already have strict gun laws. What we do not have is a culture that encourages personal and civic responsibility.
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 11:59 am
(February 22, 2018 at 11:56 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (February 22, 2018 at 11:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: WE NEED STRICTER GUN LAWS.
We already have strict gun laws. What we do not have is a culture that encourages personal and civic responsibility.
I think they need to be way stricter. But yes, we should simultaneously encourage a culture of responsibility and respect for life.
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 12:00 pm
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Quote:We already have strict gun laws. What we do not have is a culture that encourages personal and civic responsibility.
Rubbish deflection . This is almost as lame as blaming video games and hollywood .Or saying we need more prayer in school .
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RE: Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns
February 22, 2018 at 12:04 pm
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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