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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:10 pm
(February 23, 2018 at 3:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (February 23, 2018 at 3:33 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How about a dearth of convincing evidence that there are consequences?
Since we are talking about being accountable to a higher power, would you define being unconvinced that there are consequences as atheism?
If you are using 'higher power' and 'consequences' in this context to refer to matters pertaining to gods, then yes.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:12 pm
(February 23, 2018 at 4:05 pm)DLJ Wrote: (February 23, 2018 at 3:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: When it comes down to killing people I would argue that either position could fall under sociopathy would you agree?
I would not.
What would you call a serial killer that killed people never having thought of the consequences for his actions, verses a serial killer who believed there are no consequences for his actions?
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:15 pm
The first thing that comes to mind is it's based on an innocent person being brutally murdered for the crimes of the guilty. That's pretty much the opposite of just and fair. Of course also hell is often depicted as a place you'd never want to go, even if you were the type of person who isn't afraid to pay for your own crimes yourself.
You're convicted of crimes you're incapable of avoiding, sentenced to a place of punishment you're incapable of bearing, and the only way out is scapegoating someone else. That's christianity in a nutshell.
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm
(February 23, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The first thing that comes to mind is it's based on an innocent person being brutally murdered for the crimes of the guilty. That's pretty much the opposite of just and fair. Of course also hell is often depicted as a place you'd never want to go, even if you were the type of person who isn't afraid to pay for your own crimes yourself.
You're convicted of crimes you're incapable of avoiding, sentenced to a place of punishment you're incapable of bearing, and the only way out is scapegoating someone else. That's christianity in a nutshell. *emphasis mine*
A concept you embrace on a day to day basis, except in this instance it's all of the sudden an evil thing?
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm
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(February 23, 2018 at 4:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (February 23, 2018 at 4:05 pm)DLJ Wrote: I would not.
What would you call a serial killer that killed people never having thought of the consequences for his actions, verses a serial killer who believed there are no consequences for his actions?
Two serial killers.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:24 pm
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(February 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm)Cyberman Wrote: (February 23, 2018 at 4:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What would you call a serial killer that killed people never having thought of the consequences for his actions, verses a serial killer who believed there are no consequences for his actions?
Two serial killers.
Then you'd agree with me about not arguing semantics, because apparently they are the exact same thing according to you...
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Oh, I see where you were going. No, not really, because then you'd be equating people without the belief in gods with people who never thought about it. That's not necessarily the case; I for one have thought about it and so far have dismissed it pending convincing evidence to the contrary.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:48 pm
(February 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (February 23, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The first thing that comes to mind is it's based on an innocent person being brutally murdered for the crimes of the guilty. That's pretty much the opposite of just and fair. Of course also hell is often depicted as a place you'd never want to go, even if you were the type of person who isn't afraid to pay for your own crimes yourself.
You're convicted of crimes you're incapable of avoiding, sentenced to a place of punishment you're incapable of bearing, and the only way out is scapegoating someone else. That's christianity in a nutshell. *emphasis mine*
A concept you embrace on a day to day basis, except in this instance it's all of the sudden an evil thing?
And how do I do that? Unless you're using a vague definition of scapegoating.
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 4:53 pm
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(February 23, 2018 at 4:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (February 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*
A concept you embrace on a day to day basis, except in this instance it's all of the sudden an evil thing?
And how do I do that? Unless you're using a vague definition of scapegoating.
What did you eat for dinner yesterday?
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 5:00 pm
(February 23, 2018 at 4:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (February 23, 2018 at 4:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: And how do I do that? Unless you're using a vague definition of scapegoating.
What did you eat for dinner yesterday?
You see, Chad? Not a vague definition of scapegoating but a fabricated and completely incorrect one.
That's much better, isn't it?
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