Just because I want/wish something to be true does not make it so.
Or maybe my wish makes it true, but only for me.
Or maybe my wish makes it true, but only for me.
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Does the head follow the heart in matters of truth?
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And that sturdy pump keeps getting all the blame
A lot of people speak from the arse instead.
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Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (March 16, 2018 at 8:49 am)Khemikal Wrote:(March 16, 2018 at 8:25 am)alpha male Wrote: Plus, you guys should want to agree with me. You too often make a knee-jerk opposition to something I say without thinking it through. If people believe or not based on evidence, than the fact that most people have been theists of some sort shows that there's strong evidence for a creator god.A more blatant ad pop couldn't be expressed. Why should anyone want to agree with you in order to avoid some irrational conclusion you've reached? What's irrational about it?
The simple fact that an ad pop is a formal logical fallacy...silly.
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RE: Does the head follow the heart in matters of truth?
March 16, 2018 at 11:13 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2018 at 11:20 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The above is not at all how formal logical fallacies work. The problem with a formal logical fallacy is not the contents of the assertions - what one is willing to grant- but the lack of a valid means of inference between them regardless of whats asserted or granted. No matter what you fill the blanks with, an ad pop will still be an ad pop..and it's this fundamentally uninformative state of affairs that grants it the designation as a formal..rather than informal, logical fallacy.
It's the latter in which the handling of the contents is relevant, not the former. An ad pop is not an informal fallacy, therefore your willingness to grant x is not relevant or redeeming. Speaking of what you're willing to grant. You...allegedly, believe based upon evidence...correct? Would you be willing to accept the same of some contradictory or competing religions adherents? I ask, because regardless of how you answer..yes or no, this will immediately describe either the invalidity of the form, the baselessness of the assertion, or both.
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RE: Does the head follow the heart in matters of truth?
March 16, 2018 at 11:21 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2018 at 11:21 am by John V.)
(March 16, 2018 at 11:13 am)Khemikal Wrote: The above is not at all how formal logical fallacies work. The problem with a formal logical fallacy is not the contents of the assertions - what one is willing to grant- but the lack of a valid means of inference between them regardless of whats asserted or granted. No matter what you fill the blanks with, an ad pop will still be an ad pop..and it's this fundamentally uninformative state of affairs that grants it the designation as a formal..rather than informal, logical fallacy. Wrong. http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/popular.html Quote:The main problem with this fallacy is the mere fact that many people agree on something often does not imply that what they agree on is true; nevertheless, the fact that many people agree, can be relevant evidence for the truth in some instances, as shown below. The distinction is based on the nature of the relevance of the premisses to the conclusion.  RE: Does the head follow the heart in matters of truth?
March 16, 2018 at 11:25 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2018 at 11:26 am by vorlon13.)
never mind
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