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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 10:03 am
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(April 7, 2018 at 5:45 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (April 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm)He lives Wrote: Mostly because of lack of faith. Faith precedes the miracle.
Have you ever heard the story of the emperors new clothes?
The emperors new clothes is a fable, however the Cokeville miracle is a true story.
(April 7, 2018 at 10:00 am)Khemikal Wrote: I suppose you could suddenly have something worth saying, that would be a miracle. Make up your mind, can people turn a cane into a snake, or not? You have faith -and- a camera phone, I'll bet.
Pics or it doesn't happen.
Miracles happen every day.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 11:10 am
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(April 4, 2018 at 10:54 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (April 4, 2018 at 10:38 pm)He lives Wrote: So what are you doing? Any plans for the summer? I am getting my passport renewed so I can travel abroad. I like to travel and take pictures.
Barf.
P.S. Jesus is dead.
Fictional characters don't die*, they get retconned.
*Not permanently anyway.
(April 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm)He lives Wrote: (April 6, 2018 at 3:16 pm)JackRussell Wrote: And if any of you understood the current state of abiogenetic studies, or had a relevant qualification I would be worried.
It is the terminal god of the gaps. And most of you can't even grasp evolution.
In the history of science we have; Nature 100%, Supernature 0.
Some of you fucks even believe in a global flood, young Earth and talking snakes.
Too dumb to even bother with.
God of the gaps or abiogenesis of the gaps. It is the same thing.
(April 6, 2018 at 3:37 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: That is precisely why I'm getting very tired of the word abiogenesis. Just like JR said, it's god of the gaps reasoning.
***HE LIVES AND HUGGY***
If tomorrow morning, scientists learn how to create life in a laboratory (thus proving abiogenesis), would either of you renounce your religion right then and there? (Think about that question. Let it sink in.)
If the answer is no, stop bringing it up. It's irrelevant.
If it was proven tomorrow that conscience exists outside of the body or that the spirit really does leave the body when we die would you believe in God?
(April 6, 2018 at 3:39 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Well, then the goal posts would be moved to, ‘creating it in a lab doesn’t count as natural’, lol.
Scientists have been trying to create life for a long time.
Pity for your rejoinder to Vulcan that we have proven that consciousness is an emergent function of the brain's natural functions, then.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 3:15 pm
Emergent properties of a dysfunctional god should be studied if the OT and Koran are their evidence.
Provincial shit vs science, well they never are rational.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 3:46 pm
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(April 6, 2018 at 3:37 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: That is precisely why I'm getting very tired of the word abiogenesis. Just like JR said, it's god of the gaps reasoning.
***HE LIVES AND HUGGY***
If tomorrow morning, scientists learn how to create life in a laboratory (thus proving abiogenesis), would either of you renounce your religion right then and there? (Think about that question. Let it sink in.)
If the answer is no, stop bringing it up. It's irrelevant.
Happenstance has replaced 'chagrin' as my most hated word in the English language.
(April 6, 2018 at 1:46 pm)He lives Wrote: ...God is made of matter. Many people have seen him. People who demand empirical evidence of me will get empirical evidence demanded of them. Otherwise they have a double standard...
No you fucking retard idiot troll, God is incorporeal. Remember?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 4:00 pm
Some people believe God is a material entity, though.
What is a basic assumption about God according to some, is utterly contrary to his nature according to others. I'm really considering ignosticism (over agnosticism) on account of all this...
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 4:02 pm
God would make more sense as material if he interacts; but there is a problem her for many godists though.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 4:42 pm
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(April 7, 2018 at 4:00 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Some people believe God is a material entity, though.
What is a basic assumption about God according to some, is utterly contrary to his nature according to others. I'm really considering ignosticism (over agnosticism) on account of all this...
I am myself quite taken with the ignostic approach to all things concerning gods. My possibly over simplistic reading of Ignosticism is; what the fuck are you talking about!
At its very least Ignosticism takes a scythe to the interminable discussions regarding the definitions of atheism / agnosticism. Hard, soft, over easy, weak, flaccid....
Quote:It is asserted by Steven J. Conifer that to be an atheist, one who not only lacks a belief in gods but who furthermore denies that gods exist, is to give credence to the existence of a concept of something for God to refer to, because it assumes that there is something understandable to not believe in.
From here.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 10:12 pm
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(April 7, 2018 at 11:10 am)Wololo Wrote: (April 4, 2018 at 10:54 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Barf.
P.S. Jesus is dead.
Fictional characters don't die*, they get retconned.
*Not permanently anyway.
(April 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm)He lives Wrote: God of the gaps or abiogenesis of the gaps. It is the same thing.
If it was proven tomorrow that conscience exists outside of the body or that the spirit really does leave the body when we die would you believe in God?
Scientists have been trying to create life for a long time.
Pity for your rejoinder to Vulcan that we have proven that consciousness is an emergent function of the brain's natural functions, then.
No and you can't show that proof: http://www.superconsciousness.com/topics...-not-brain
(April 7, 2018 at 3:46 pm)Succubus Wrote: (April 6, 2018 at 3:37 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: That is precisely why I'm getting very tired of the word abiogenesis. Just like JR said, it's god of the gaps reasoning.
***HE LIVES AND HUGGY***
If tomorrow morning, scientists learn how to create life in a laboratory (thus proving abiogenesis), would either of you renounce your religion right then and there? (Think about that question. Let it sink in.)
If the answer is no, stop bringing it up. It's irrelevant.
Happenstance has replaced 'chagrin' as my most hated word in the English language.
(April 6, 2018 at 1:46 pm)He lives Wrote: ...God is made of matter. Many people have seen him. People who demand empirical evidence of me will get empirical evidence demanded of them. Otherwise they have a double standard...
No you fucking retard idiot troll, God is incorporeal. Remember?
God is made of matter. I did not say otherwise. Please pay attention.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 8, 2018 at 12:40 am
Yawn. From the website above:
Quote:Excerpted from The Science of Premonition: How Knowing the Future Can Help Us Avoid Danger, Maximize Opportunities and Create a Better Life by Larry Dossey. Copyright 2009 by Larry Dossey. Reprinted by permission of the author.
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RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 10, 2018 at 8:27 pm
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(April 7, 2018 at 4:42 pm)Succubus Wrote: (April 7, 2018 at 4:00 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Some people believe God is a material entity, though.
What is a basic assumption about God according to some, is utterly contrary to his nature according to others. I'm really considering ignosticism (over agnosticism) on account of all this...
I am myself quite taken with the ignostic approach to all things concerning gods. My possibly over simplistic reading of Ignosticism is; what the fuck are you talking about!
At its very least Ignosticism takes a scythe to the interminable discussions regarding the definitions of atheism / agnosticism. Hard, soft, over easy, weak, flaccid....
Quote:It is asserted by Steven J. Conifer that to be an atheist, one who not only lacks a belief in gods but who furthermore denies that gods exist, is to give credence to the existence of a concept of something for God to refer to, because it assumes that there is something understandable to not believe in.
From here. https://youtu.be/JL1oDuvQR08
(April 8, 2018 at 12:40 am)Jehanne Wrote: Yawn. From the website above:
Quote:Excerpted from The Science of Premonition: How Knowing the Future Can Help Us Avoid Danger, Maximize Opportunities and Create a Better Life by Larry Dossey. Copyright 2009 by Larry Dossey. Reprinted by permission of the author.
https://youtu.be/JL1oDuvQR08
https://youtu.be/ICdizzVY5h4
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