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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:38 pm
(April 10, 2018 at 2:28 pm)alpha male Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Divinity Wrote: I wonder how much higher taxes anti-choice activists would be willing to pay to fund taking programs that provide food, housing, and assistance to all mothers.
If we can't kill our babies, then society should have to pay for them.
That's not a very compelling argument.
Maybe we should just sterilize all the poor people, eh?
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:40 pm
You know, I always hear conservative men say "keep your legs together". I never hear them say "keep your dick in your pants."
I wonder why that is?
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:41 pm
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(April 10, 2018 at 1:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You expect them to not have sex unless they are fully prepared to have a baby. Which we have already established is an unrealistic expectation as evidenced by the data.
No, I expect them to care for a baby whether they're fully prepared to have it or not. Or put it up for adoption. People have been doing so for as long as there have been people.
Quote:‘Go ahead and have sex; that’s fine. But, if you get pregnant, that’s on you, just like it has been for as long as there's been people. Many of you will find that children are a blessing, not a curse. The rest of you will carry on anyway.
FTFY
Quote:Sure. But that doesn’t mean it’s necessary we attempt to do so every time we engage in sexual intercourse, lol.
Nope, but it does mean that people have been having unplanned children for as long as there have been people.
Quote:That’s not true at all. If I gave you that impression it was the wrong one. I am extremely, internally conflicted on the subject of abortion in general.
And that's a big part of the problem of this discussion. I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you said you're different from 99% of atheists on this issue, yet you argue just like most of them. It would be easier if you really knew where you stood, and why.
Quote:No. Why are you having such a hard time with this?
Action A: woman has sex
Event B: Pregnancy happens
Action/s C: Woman aks for an abortion, and it is performed
It doesn’t follow that making a personal, moral judgement about action/s C means that I am necessarily making a personal, moral judgement about action A.
Right - it doesn't mean that for you. Yet, for me, you seem to think it does necessarily mean that.
(April 10, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Divinity Wrote: I’d like to hear from Atheist and Alpha here.
I'd rather take it from foreign aid and immigrant benefits - and the fathers - than in higher taxes. Why do you guys always jump to higher taxes?
(April 10, 2018 at 2:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 2:28 pm)alpha male Wrote: If we can't kill our babies, then society should have to pay for them.
That's not a very compelling argument.
Maybe we should just sterilize all the poor people, eh?
You should really think these things through before you say them. Babies killed by abortion are disproportionately poor, minority, and female.
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April 10, 2018 at 2:46 pm
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That's alot to unpack..you'd suggest shittifying the lives of a third party, in addition to both the boy and girl involved....in order to satisfy your own personal displeasure?
See...this is why we have rights, and a system to protect them, lol. The world is chock full of people, like you... who would do all of that...to you.
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:48 pm
(April 10, 2018 at 2:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That's alot to unpack..you'd suggest shittifying the lives of a third party,
No, as I don't think children shittify one's life, or are a punishment, as you think.
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Quote:If we can't kill our babies, then society should have to pay for them.
That's not a very compelling argument.
Yes THAT is not a compelling argument . Because it's a strawman invented by you .
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:52 pm
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Who's talking about kids, now? You just told us you'd fuck the mexicans in order to pay for your slut fucking fetish.
Why don't you take some personal responsibility, pay your own bills for your own kinks?
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:56 pm
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(April 10, 2018 at 10:36 am)A Theist Wrote: Could you clarify your response to AM....in his response he made mention that worldwide they're terminating the lives of unborn females and bringing the males to birth. Is it females that you're calling the plague of humanity that is swamping the planet? I know they're not the easiest to live with but I'd hardly call them a plague.
I'm not a fan of team humans. My loyalty is to the biosphere and I celebrate diversity. Humans dictate the landscape and limit the available environments for every other creature that is unable to cohabitant with us. I don't find the prospect of a world inhabited only by humans, their pets, their domestic animals, the assorted 'pests' able to make a living in our midsts and the micro organisms able to make it in the world we've made to be aesthetically acceptable.
Whether there are more male or female humans is beside the point. There just needs to be many, many less humans for the team I root for to win. It isn't a question of whether the planet can be converted into a sustainable home for the maximum human population. Remember, I don't buy into any world as a transitional learning experience for any would be eternal afterlife. So I place enormous value in the planet that we have and all its inhabitants.
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 2:58 pm
We could forcibly abort christians and make the muslims pay for it. 
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RE: SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves
April 10, 2018 at 3:00 pm
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(April 10, 2018 at 2:41 pm)alpha male Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 1:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You expect them to not have sex unless they are fully prepared to have a baby. Which we have already established is an unrealistic expectation as evidenced by the data.
No, I expect them to care for a baby whether they're fully prepared to have it or not. Or put it up for adoption. People have been doing so for as long as there have been people.
Okay. I’m not sure that’s the best thing for society at large, but I empathize with your moral inclination here.
Quote:That’s not true at all. If I gave you that impression it was the wrong one. I am extremely, internally conflicted on the subject of abortion in general.
Quote:It would be easier if you really knew where you stood, and why.
It would be easier. Unfortunately...I’m conflicted. You seem uncomfortable with someone being not fully on one side or the other.
Quote:No. Why are you having such a hard time with this?
Action A: woman has sex
Event B: Pregnancy happens
Action/s C: Woman aks for an abortion, and it is performed
It doesn’t follow that making a personal, moral judgement about action/s C means that I am necessarily making a personal, moral judgement about action A.
Quote:Right - it doesn't mean that for you. Yet, for me, you seem to think it does necessarily means that.
No...you said that it didn’t mean that for you, so I’ll take you at your word. Neither one of us are slut-shaming anyone then. Moving on.
(April 10, 2018 at 2:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Maybe we should just sterilize all the poor people, eh?
Quote:You should really think these things through before you say them. Babies killed by abortion are disproportionately poor, minority, and female.
No shit, Sherlock. I was making a joke.
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