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Dumb As A Bag of Hair
#11
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(April 9, 2018 at 2:00 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: So because (allegedly) my great great, great, great, x however many grandpa ate an apple, I deserve to potentially get cancer or I guess the health problems I actually already do have.

It takes a primitive mind to make this kind of shit up.

It takes a primitive mind to keep falling for it 2,500 years later.
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#12
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(April 9, 2018 at 2:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 9, 2018 at 2:00 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: So because (allegedly) my great great, great, great, x however many grandpa ate an apple, I deserve to potentially get cancer or I guess the health problems I actually already do have.

It takes a primitive mind to make this kind of shit up.

It takes a primitive mind to keep falling for it 2,500 years later.

Those who started the religion and those who added onto it are good at simple brainwashing. Make people feel like they're evil and dirty for things they have to do, then give them the cure for the fictional disease. I stayed in the cycle until about 2 years ago. So I don't really judge religious people too much until they try to push their agenda on others. 

It definitely is not a complex or nuanced mindset, for the fundamentalists, but you have huge amounts of nominal Christians that barely believe, and liberal Christians that don't take it literally.
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#13
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If they aren't throwing rocks at the godless they aren't really the problem.

But there are plenty who buy the whole bag of shit.
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#14
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true.
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(April 9, 2018 at 12:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: An omnipotent and omniscient being would necessarily be responsible for the existence of cancer, whether creating it directly or merely allowing it to come into existence. Those two omnis make you responsible for everything.

Not at all, that's just crazy thinking. Because God is omnipotent and omniscient this does not demand He has to do anything about any disease and there is nothing show that He would. The only reason atheist say such is because they do not want God to be real, too bad He is. God is said to have cursed the earth and He did by removing His protection from it and allowing Satan to have a part in human life as humans chose.

GC

(April 9, 2018 at 2:00 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: So because (allegedly) my great great, great, great, x however many grandpa ate an apple, I deserve to potentially get cancer or I guess the health problems I actually already do have.

It takes a primitive mind to make this kind of shit up.

 Your ailments are a result of sin period and it could be because of your own, now don't get bent out of shape I said could be. You speak of Christians and Jews as if they have always been and are still today primitive. Well the Egyptians worshiped many different gods and yet they built the pyramids, something architects today say we can't do, especially without modern equipment. There are stones in some of the Middle Eastern buildings so heavy that we have no machines that can move them, Solomon's Temple was considered one of the most beautiful complexes built. man today doesn't even have the talents needed to build the cathedrals of the past. So how is it we are primitive man is losing much knowledge every generation.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Thanks for being, as usual, the bad example, G-C.

Sin my ass.
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#17
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(April 9, 2018 at 11:59 am)Minimalist Wrote: But so typical for creatard morons.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/creatio...ed-cancer/

Quote:Creationist Ken Ham’s brain melts down as he contemplates whether God created cancer

Quote:Creationist Ken Ham, the founder of the infamous Ark Encounter museum, issued a bizarre tweet on Monday in which he lashed out at Christians who believe that life has existed on Earth for millions — and not merely thousands — of years.

In explaining why all true Christians should believe that God created the world a mere 6,000 years ago despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Ham said that accepting such a narrative would be to blame God for the creation of diseases that he believes came about only after a talking snake tricked two people into eating an apple.

Yes, fucktard.  No talking snakes.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(April 10, 2018 at 12:25 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(April 9, 2018 at 12:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: An omnipotent and omniscient being would necessarily be responsible for the existence of cancer, whether creating it directly or merely allowing it to come into existence. Those two omnis make you responsible for everything.

Not at all, that's just crazy thinking. Because God is omnipotent and omniscient this does not demand He has to do anything about any disease and there is nothing show that He would. The only reason atheist say such is because they do not want God to be real, too bad He is. God is said to have cursed the earth and He did by removing His protection from it and allowing Satan to have a part in human life as humans chose.

GC

(April 9, 2018 at 2:00 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: So because (allegedly) my great great, great, great, x however many grandpa ate an apple, I deserve to potentially get cancer or I guess the health problems I actually already do have.

It takes a primitive mind to make this kind of shit up.

 Your ailments are a result of sin period and it could be because of your own, now don't get bent out of shape I said could be. You speak of Christians and Jews as if they have always been and are still today primitive. Well the Egyptians worshiped many different gods and yet they built the pyramids, something architects today say we can't do, especially without modern equipment. There are stones in some of the Middle Eastern buildings so heavy that we have no machines that can move them, Solomon's Temple was considered one of the most beautiful complexes built. man today doesn't even have the talents needed to build the cathedrals of the past. So how is it we are primitive man is losing much knowledge every generation.

GC

I think Christians that believe that believe it mainly because they've been taught to and often keep believing because some of the teachings form a kind of loop. Or for comfort. I don't think Christians and Jews are less intelligent but I do believe studies have shown that some Christians are not as good at lateral thinking. 


I think the idea that we all somehow deserve everything just doesn't make sense, especially since we now have a whole lot of scientific understanding as to what causes disease. These teachings came before such progress. People were just trying to come up with an explanation without much verified knowledge.
It's basically "Someone must have angered the gods." I don't believe it's moral to punish people for something that other people did.

I do think it's harmful and causes unnecessary guilt to teach people that, and many other teachings such as that gay sex is wrong, that even just looking at anyone you aren't married to is wrong and I could go on. But I won't.

As for Solomon's Temple, I don't know that we've found that. I would suppose it would be big news. I would have to see evidence that it existed and in the form that the Bible says it did in order to believe that it did.

I'm not sure that we couldn't build pyramids today with modern equipment instead of slave labor, but I don't think anyone would want to. At least not full size.
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#19
RE: Dumb As A Bag of Hair
(April 9, 2018 at 11:59 am)Minimalist Wrote: But so typical for creatard morons.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/creatio...ed-cancer/

Quote:Creationist Ken Ham’s brain melts down as he contemplates whether God created cancer

Quote:Creationist Ken Ham, the founder of the infamous Ark Encounter museum, issued a bizarre tweet on Monday in which he lashed out at Christians who believe that life has existed on Earth for millions — and not merely thousands — of years.

In explaining why all true Christians should believe that God created the world a mere 6,000 years ago despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Ham said that accepting such a narrative would be to blame God for the creation of diseases that he believes came about only after a talking snake tricked two people into eating an apple.

Yes, fucktard.  No talking snakes.


While I will still take a liberal theist over a right wing nut literalist of ANY religion, humans even on the left, don't want to face, the further you go back in human history the more people in the world took the fantastic claims as factual. But that goes for every religion, not just Christianity.

So to be fair to Ken, he is staying more true to his beliefs than liberals. He's still full of shit but still.

BACK THEN humans literally believed that the earth was made in 6 days. And sorry liberals, as much as I love your empathy and value of pluralism, THOSE writers also believed it too.

The more scientific method figures out the truth, the more theists move from literal to "metaphor".
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#20
RE: Dumb As A Bag of Hair
(April 10, 2018 at 12:25 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(April 9, 2018 at 12:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: An omnipotent and omniscient being would necessarily be responsible for the existence of cancer, whether creating it directly or merely allowing it to come into existence. Those two omnis make you responsible for everything.

Not at all, that's just crazy thinking. Because God is omnipotent and omniscient this does not demand He has to do anything about any disease and there is nothing show that He would. The only reason atheist say such is because they do not want God to be real, too bad He is. God is said to have cursed the earth and He did by removing His protection from it and allowing Satan to have a part in human life as humans chose.

GC

(April 9, 2018 at 2:00 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: So because (allegedly) my great great, great, great, x however many grandpa ate an apple, I deserve to potentially get cancer or I guess the health problems I actually already do have.

It takes a primitive mind to make this kind of shit up.

 Your ailments are a result of sin period and it could be because of your own, now don't get bent out of shape I said could be. You speak of Christians and Jews as if they have always been and are still today primitive. Well the Egyptians worshiped many different gods and yet they built the pyramids, something architects today say we can't do, especially without modern equipment. There are stones in some of the Middle Eastern buildings so heavy that we have no machines that can move them, Solomon's Temple was considered one of the most beautiful complexes built. man today doesn't even have the talents needed to build the cathedrals of the past. So how is it we are primitive man is losing much knowledge every generation.

GC

Sin, huh? If not IA's sin, then whose "sins" got visited on him? It's a sick religion that adheres to that kind of "thought".

There isn't a structure ever built that we can't build in this day and age. Show me where some "architect" made these claims, and I'll show you how he's wrong.
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