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Civility subsection suggestion
RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 3:25 am)KittyAnn Wrote:
Quote:Ignorance can only be combated with information. If you shut the door on those people, they will remain ignorant and I think that the purpose of a discussion forum is also to inform people...
Exactly i agree with that, but remember that it works both ways...

What do you mean with "both ways"?
RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 3:32 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(May 4, 2018 at 3:25 am)KittyAnn Wrote: Exactly i agree with that, but remember that it works both ways...

What do you mean with "both ways"?
it works both ways..
it means that none of us knows everything but each of us knows something...
so we can learn something from each other ... one from the other, right?!
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RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 5:34 am)KittyAnn Wrote:
(May 4, 2018 at 3:32 am)pocaracas Wrote: What do you mean with "both ways"?
it works both ways..
it means that none of us knows everything but each of us knows something...
so we can learn something from each other ... one from the other, right?!

Right.... that's what we're here for, I think.
RE: Civility subsection suggestion
So I went back and reread a few of my posts here where I explain my intention for this subsection. 

In case there is any misunderstanding, I wanted to clarify that when I said this: 

"The premise is to encourage honest discussion of differing view points." 

....What I meant was discussion between people with differing view points from each other. Example: theists and atheists discuss/debate with each other about religious related topics, liberals and conservatives discuss/debate with each other about politically related topics, etc. 

I did not mean people with the same minority viewpoints would just get together and talk among themselves (example: only theists talking to theists, only conservatives talking to conservatives, only people of X minority opinion talking to people with that same opinion, etc). That can happen too of course, but isn't my purpose for proposing this idea. Discussion with people who have different opinions/beliefs from myself is the whole reason why I'm on AF, so yeah.    

Since the term "safe space" and "snow flake" kept being thrown around a lot, I thought maybe I was not making myself clear enough in what I had in mind. Hopefully the above clarification helps dispel those accusations lol.
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RE: Civility subsection suggestion
I don't think that the boards are suffering from a deficit of honest discussions.
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RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 12:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So I went back and reread a few of my posts here where I explain my intention for this subsection. 

In case there is any misunderstanding, I wanted to clarify that when I said this: 

"The premise is to encourage honest discussion of differing view points." 

....What I meant was discussion between people with differing view points from each other. Example: theists and atheists discuss/debate with each other about religious related topics, liberals and conservatives discuss/debate with each other about politically related topics, etc. 

I did not mean people with the same minority viewpoints would just get together and talk among themselves (example: only theists talking to theists, only conservatives talking to conservatives, only people of X minority opinion talking to people with that same opinion, etc). That can happen too of course, but isn't my purpose for proposing this idea. Discussion with people who have different opinions/beliefs from myself is the whole reason why I'm on AF, so yeah.    

Since the term "safe space" and "snow flake" kept being thrown around a lot, I thought maybe I was not making myself clear enough in what I had in mind. Hopefully the above clarification helps dispel those accusations lol.
bold mine.

But this is exactly what has happened. There is now a debate going on that has specifically excluded atheists. On an Atheist forum no less. 

Do you see why myself and others were so against this in the first place?
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RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Joods Wrote:
(May 4, 2018 at 12:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So I went back and reread a few of my posts here where I explain my intention for this subsection. 

In case there is any misunderstanding, I wanted to clarify that when I said this: 

"The premise is to encourage honest discussion of differing view points." 

....What I meant was discussion between people with differing view points from each other. Example: theists and atheists discuss/debate with each other about religious related topics, liberals and conservatives discuss/debate with each other about politically related topics, etc. 

I did not mean people with the same minority viewpoints would just get together and talk among themselves (example: only theists talking to theists, only conservatives talking to conservatives, only people of X minority opinion talking to people with that same opinion, etc). That can happen too of course, but isn't my purpose for proposing this idea. Discussion with people who have different opinions/beliefs from myself is the whole reason why I'm on AF, so yeah.    

Since the term "safe space" and "snow flake" kept being thrown around a lot, I thought maybe I was not making myself clear enough in what I had in mind. Hopefully the above clarification helps dispel those accusations lol.
bold mine.

But this is exactly what has happened. There is now a debate going on that has specifically excluded atheists. On an Atheist forum no less. 

Do you see why myself and others were so against this in the first place?

If it's even a debate. It's more like a series of blog posts to me.
RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I don't think that the boards are suffering from a deficit of honest discussions.


Perhaps she meant honest discussions unamalgamated with insults and derails?
RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(May 4, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I don't think that the boards are suffering from a deficit of honest discussions.


Perhaps she meant honest discussions unamalgamated with insults and derails?

Funnily enough though, when appropriately challenged and asked for proof, 99% of the time theists will be the first ones to attack those rightfully questioning their claims.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
RE: Civility subsection suggestion
(May 4, 2018 at 1:19 pm)Joods Wrote:
(May 4, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Perhaps she meant honest discussions unamalgamated with insults and derails?

Funnily enough though, when appropriately challenged and asked for proof, 99% of the time theists will be the first ones to attack those rightfully questioning their claims.


Yup, xtian troll-bots.  But it is not known if those are sentient.



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