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God and Death, dying out.
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RE: God and Death, dying out.
(May 13, 2018 at 7:58 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(May 11, 2018 at 6:36 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I miss my Brother, Cousin, Grandparents. Did you ever stop to think that you are telling me my loved ones are roasting in Hell because they either chose the wrong god or did not believe. Somehow I am supposed to find comfort? Twisted!

I don't think about them but I think about my own self. Why would I care that others will be in hell? that's quite narcissistic of me,  if I didn't enter it then I won, if I did enter then I lost. Your brother and cousin and grandparents are out of the equation for me.
I am sorry for your personal loss.I would have said that earlier. Except for narcisism !
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#12
RE: God and Death, dying out.
(May 12, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(May 11, 2018 at 3:52 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: They die out. One by one; first their health declines, and then they become weaker and weaker, until one of them falls. The fall might be a silent stroke, maybe it's a type of paralysis, something that screams "decay": the body of your loved one is decaying. It cannot hold anymore.

Yes; I'm speaking about the departure of a person you love so much to the other side. The grim reaper floats above their head; and the most interesting fact of it all is that the moments that precede their departure, they become so sick and crippled they can't even talk.

I'm speaking specifically about Ishemeic Strokes. Through all my life I thought I was tough, until I saw that family member vomits on themselves due to tube feeding. It was the saddest scene I ever saw, and I knew what the grim reaper's fist is like.

Our loved ones will all be gone, if we didn't go before them. Every day I spend at the hospital reminds me of that fact. And reminds me more that I need something eternal by my side, something that stays no matter how old I get, or how alone I be. Someone that never leaves.

That one is God. And I believe in him. In my time their will be no one else as an ever lasting companion, it's not for him it's for me; I believe  for myself not to become sad.

With God; death won't be in vein. It would be another gateway.
You just gave the reason why religions exist.  People are afraid of dying and they want to live forever.  Since their lives are crap they want something better so they invent the idea of a soul that will exist after they die.  So that enables con men to come up with a religious doctrine that promises people what they want, but only if they do what the con men want.  Otherwise the person will spend eternity in hell.  It all sounds so reasonable because people have already deluded themselves without any previous help.  The con men and their religions just add structure to the person's own self delusion.

We will all die.  Some people experience horrific deaths.  Others go through a long process of dying.  Some lives end suddenly without warning.  If a person chooses to go through a long process of dying it's want they want.  There's no reason to feel sad about it other that you will miss their company and support.

This is a good way to go for some people = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOV8mBjHHYg

When a person you knew all your life suffers a grim fate; it hits badly and differently than any previous pain. The sadness will come to you no matter what.

(May 13, 2018 at 6:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 11, 2018 at 3:52 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: They die out. One by one; first their health declines, and then they become weaker and weaker, until one of them falls. The fall might be a silent stroke, maybe it's a type of paralysis, something that screams "decay": the body of your loved one is decaying. It cannot hold anymore.

Yes; I'm speaking about the departure of a person you love so much to the other side. The grim reaper floats above their head; and the most interesting fact of it all is that the moments that precede their departure, they become so sick and crippled they can't even talk.

I'm speaking specifically about Ishemeic Strokes. Through all my life I thought I was tough, until I saw that family member vomits on themselves due to tube feeding. It was the saddest scene I ever saw, and I knew what the grim reaper's fist is like.

Our loved ones will all be gone, if we didn't go before them. Every day I spend at the hospital reminds me of that fact. And reminds me more that I need something eternal by my side, something that stays no matter how old I get, or how alone I be. Someone that never leaves.

That one is God. And I believe in him. In my time their will be no one else as an ever lasting companion, it's not for him it's for me; I believe  for myself not to become sad.

With God; death won't be in vein. It would be another gateway.

I'm truly sorry for your (impending?) loss.  Given the suffering and loss of dignity that often follows a stroke, how do you feel about assisted suicide?

Boru

Thank you, Boru.
Really appreciated.

If you wanted the complete honest truth; I thought about it but the sufferer never talked about such scenario or even had a will. There are fates worse than death and ischemic strokes are one of them. Personally, I would take the path of euthanasia if I was ever hit with a stroke or something similar in magnitude, I'll write it in my will. They lost their ability to speak anyways. It's also illegal in here -punished by execution; ...................................-.
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#13
RE: God and Death, dying out.
I'm very sorry for your losses. That must be absolutely awful.

As for the "God" part, my comment in another thread is relevant:

(May 8, 2018 at 1:13 pm)robvalue Wrote: The bizarre implication I pick up over and over from some theists is that someone's belief about afterlives decides whether they get an afterlife or not.

This is of course absurd. At most, it could affect what kind you get, if there really is some terminally bored gatekeeper assigning afterlife quality based on people's beliefs about those afterlives. But that's such a convoluted scenario that it's not worth taking seriously. You may as well worry that your beliefs about shoes decide your quality of afterlife, due to some hypothetical shoe-obsessed superbeing.

I can totally understand that such a belief could be comforting (if you ignore the divisive nature of it), but that shouldn't be confused with the truth of the idea.
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RE: God and Death, dying out.
(May 13, 2018 at 8:02 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(May 13, 2018 at 7:58 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I don't think about them but I think about my own self. Why would I care that others will be in hell? that's quite narcissistic of me,  if I didn't enter it then I won, if I did enter then I lost. Your brother and cousin and grandparents are out of the equation for me.
I am sorry for your personal loss.I would have said that earlier. Except for narcisism !

I am also sorry Atlas! I was wrapped up in my own opinion and forgot tosay I am sorry for your loved ones trauma!
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