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Poll: Which questions would you like to see the Christians address?
This poll is closed.
Question: 1-Why weren't the Muslims and Jews invited to your thread?
13.64%
6 13.64%
Question: 2-Why does God appear to know only what the writers of the Bible know?
22.73%
10 22.73%
Question: 3-At what age do children stop getting a free pass?
9.09%
4 9.09%
Question: 4-What is your view of Muslims?
4.55%
2 4.55%
Question: 5-Do you feel that by associating with atheists you are not putting Christ first?
18.18%
8 18.18%
Question: 6-What if God doesn't actually exist?
31.82%
14 31.82%
Total 44 vote(s) 100%
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VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
#31
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
(May 17, 2018 at 5:42 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Bathing in blood can also be wasteful.

Chainsaw plus victim equals blood shower.

Did that once. Fun at the time, but such a pain to clean up. Should have covered everything in plastic first, but then the victim would have been tipped off.
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#32
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
(May 17, 2018 at 5:33 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Remember that kudos was a deciding factor, too. I think the only questions I picked because of interesting debate potential were the free pass one and the authors of the Bible knowledege one. The rest were kudos based.

Really? You can't think of a single question worthy of a vote? C'mon, man.

EDIT: Actually turns out more of my bias went into it than I thought. Oops.

Yeah well I rarely get much kudos but I think my posts are high quality.

Well like I said Mathilda's seems interesting as does one of Jor's... but the answers I can imagine being very predictable and causing much more boring answers than some of the questions I asked. I'm trying to aim for something that would cause answers that will be interesting to comment on.

I mean, this is the problem when you leave it up to democracy: The option that is winning is a question that has already been asked and answered on the thread before!

(May 17, 2018 at 5:36 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: You'd been amazed how good blood looks drippung from a pair of boobs!

Wait you're a blood fetishist?

Well, whatever floats your boat, my fetishes are only mildly milder.

I voted via a friend's recommendation Tongue
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#33
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
(May 17, 2018 at 4:52 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: @CL

No, Jews are an ethnic group/nationality... or a "race" if you believe human beings can be distinguished according to such a category (which I don't).

Christians and Muslims don't come from a specific ethnicity and so, no, you can't be a Christian or Muslim atheist because the only parameter which makes you Christian or Muslim is belief.

Interesting. I thought Judaism was a religion, not a race/ethnicity or whatever.

The Jewish family I grew up next to were blond haired blue eyed people. Looked totally Caucasian to me.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#34
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
(May 17, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(May 17, 2018 at 4:52 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: @CL

No, Jews are an ethnic group/nationality... or a "race" if you believe human beings can be distinguished according to such a category (which I don't).

Christians and Muslims don't come from a specific ethnicity and so, no, you can't be a Christian or Muslim atheist because the only parameter which makes you Christian or Muslim is belief.

Interesting. I thought Judaism was a religion, not a race/ethnicity or whatever.

The Jewish family I grew up next to were blond haired blue eyed people. Looked totally Caucasian to me.

Well The Jews originate from Israel. Fun fact: Circumcision was originally a Jewish only thing to differentiate Jews from non-Jews before the medical myths swept over into the USA and it started being done to non-Jews.
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#35
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
Ashkenazim.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#36
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
(May 17, 2018 at 6:08 pm)Hammy Wrote:
(May 17, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Interesting. I thought Judaism was a religion, not a race/ethnicity or whatever.

The Jewish family I grew up next to were blond haired blue eyed people. Looked totally Caucasian to me.

Well The Jews originate from Israel. Fun fact: Circumcision was originally a Jewish only thing to differentiate Jews from non-Jews before the medical myths swept over into the USA and it started being done to non-Jews.

Then wouldn't the ethnicity just be "Israeli"?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#37
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
(May 17, 2018 at 6:08 pm)Hammy Wrote:
(May 17, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Interesting. I thought Judaism was a religion, not a race/ethnicity or whatever.

The Jewish family I grew up next to were blond haired blue eyed people. Looked totally Caucasian to me.

Well The Jews originate from Israel. Fun fact: Circumcision was originally a Jewish only thing to differentiate Jews from non-Jews before the medical myths swept over into the USA and it started being done to non-Jews.

Actually circumcision was an Egyptian thing with the earliest attestation to the practice going back to 2400 BC.... long, long, before there was any culture which could be identified as "jewish."
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#38
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
I voted for question, 5
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"

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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#39
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
(May 17, 2018 at 4:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(May 17, 2018 at 3:59 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: A person of Jewish ancestry that does not believe that God exists.

So there can be atheist Christians and atheist Muslims as well?

No. For one thing, those religions specifically require a belief in God, and believe that through free will people all make a choice to be Christian or Muslim. Judaism however believes that God chooses who is Jewish, and its a predestined thing. That's why Jews don't try to convert anyone, and in fact a rabbi is supposed to talk someone out of converting. According to Judaism,  you can never stop being Jewish,  regardless of your beliefs .

Also there is an ethnic group, Ashkenazi, which is largely called Jewish. So if you are part of that ethnic group, you may consider yourself Jewish regardless of your beliefs.

You can test that with a dna test. Certainly Christians and Muslims reject that you can be either and an atheist, and reject that you can test Christianity with a dna test.



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#40
RE: VOTE HERE: Final four questions for the Christian Debate
I also voted. Where are the questions about why we are here, isn't this what the debate was about. Also the last question is in reality the same as the first question and the question on what we think about Muslims has nothing to do with why we are here or Christianity. I'm seeing that the atheist here have no original thought or they just don't care about this discussion because they can't be directly involved in the debate to derail our conversations. Now I'm wondering if it's a good idea to stay where people just don't care to hear what those of a different opinion have to say and discuss it with any supposed intelligence. By what I'm seeing logic and intelligence have nothing to do with each other according to the recorded accounts of the atheist here. 

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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