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RE: Question to theists
June 19, 2018 at 11:46 am
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(June 19, 2018 at 11:32 am)Drich Wrote: or it showing up on a atheist forum to impossible for an all powerful God (with servants)
Seems so, since we havent seen this god or any of it;s servants. Just the odd raving loon and their own ego.
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RE: Question to theists
June 19, 2018 at 12:24 pm
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(June 19, 2018 at 9:46 am)Drich Wrote: in his book mein kampf he goes in to greater detail ultimatly userping the divinity of Christ and installing himself as a supreme being citing the use of his book as a moral guideline to or for the religious german.
The truth is that Hitler exploited Christian hate toward Jews and majority of clergy did work for him while some (minority) refused and were sent to camps. But like I said majority of priests were loyal to him and even telling people during the mass that it is not a sin to kill a jew that is older than 6 years of age.
Now this kind of distortment that you're trying to push that Hitler was not for "real" Jesus and how Hitler persecuted Church really comes to the fact that Vatican helped Nazis after WW2 to escape to Latin America. There is no denying it and there was no excuse for them to do it because they weren't under Nazis threat (something that they like to use as an excuse for corroborating with Nazis). As if they were thanking Nazis for what they have done.
And it's still not over. Elements of antisemitism and overall bigotry in Christianity that made Fascism possible still lives. Like Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, still gives antisemitic statements like "Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular." and nobody even flinches let alone fires him.
Not to mention some actual Christian preachers today
I mean I would love if you were right or at least that Christian bigotry and hate is thing of the past but it's not and denying it is not good for anyone.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Question to theists
June 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 11:32 am)Drich Wrote: who suffered? are zoo monkeys complaining because they were higher up on the social ladder but God took them down too many notches?
who is in pain who claims to have lost any one?
or do you mean the whole sale destruction of the literally soulless monsters who preyed on humanity? or are you too foolish to understand that the world was steeped in a wickness it has nor it will ever see again... {snip batshit-insane ranting and raving}
Wow. Just... wow. Is that really how you see the world, Drich -- A never-ending parade of evil creatures?
I see things a bit differently. I see plenty of good and beauty in the world. Yes, there is evil out there. No, it isn't everywhere. It isn't even most
places. What a weird concept.
Quote:You friggen moron that is who you morn, the monsters or demi gods that are no longer here enslaving or eating us is who your greive. well f-you and I say f-them and whom ever else who will not thank God for putting us on top of the food chain and incharge of this world. My prayer for you is that you live under those in whom you morn for. you want to know real oppression you want to be consumed by the angel hybrids then so be it.
Y'know, Drich, it would be entirely too easy for me to suggest you get psychiatric help, or to indulge in payback by imagining you and your loved ones in some dreadful situation. Emergency surgery, tornado, fired from your job, that kind of thing.
I can do better than that. A lot better.
I think you should just wake up some random morning and discover that your faith has been replaced by a quiet and peaceful emptiness, for no apparent reason. Still reeling from the strangeness of it all, you give your head a shake, take a deep breath, and realize you feel better than ever. And then you get on with the rest of your life, glad to be free of the delusions that poisoned your view of reality.
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RE: Question to theists
June 19, 2018 at 5:03 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 12:58 am)Godscreated Wrote: No one has reached that status, man is created by God and man can't even make a piece of grass and we know all the chemicals contained in a piece of grass. Until you can create a piece of living grass I would say you have no foundation on which to question God.
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Radged or the best poe ever?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Question to theists
June 19, 2018 at 11:51 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 11:36 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (June 19, 2018 at 1:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: This definition shows that I would have to be the one who could punish you by placing you in hell
GC
You do realize, I hope, that it is entirely possible to threaten one person with the acts of another, much like Rob's sniper example. You pass on the threat of hell in your gawd's name all the fucking time GC. At least be man enough to own it.
I can't own something I do not have. With God I can't even earn what I do not have, it's given by grace, thankfully.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Question to theists
June 20, 2018 at 12:04 am
Cowardice -and- craven threats. Another fine example christian moral character.
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RE: Question to theists
June 20, 2018 at 5:44 pm
(June 7, 2018 at 11:52 am)purplepurpose Wrote: If we presume that instead of hell God erases rebels, can you still provide legit reason to follow Magical God? God is not magical, He is Spiritual.
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RE: Question to theists
June 20, 2018 at 6:49 pm
Yes, we know.... we;ve heard from others, your magic isn;t magical.
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RE: Question to theists
June 20, 2018 at 7:54 pm
(June 20, 2018 at 5:44 pm)Dickie Wrote: (June 7, 2018 at 11:52 am)purplepurpose Wrote: If we presume that instead of hell God erases rebels, can you still provide legit reason to follow Magical God? God is not magical, He is Spiritual.
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RE: Question to theists
June 20, 2018 at 10:00 pm
What is a spiritual being, I wonder?
I expect it's going to involve a lot of telling us what it's not, so as to hide it from all detection. Is there something positive that can be said about these things, that would help us distinguish them from nothing at all?
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