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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 18, 2018 at 3:18 am
(June 18, 2018 at 1:35 am)Godscreated Wrote: (June 17, 2018 at 2:31 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Wow. Your gawd's creation was screwed by a single act of disobedience by a lowly mortal? You do understand that's kinda like saying the entire car got screwed up because one valve stem cap came off, right?
Your gawd is a shit designer.
The act caused the action. A bad oxygen sensor can cost you much money. yet people drive around all the time with bad sensors and have been warned by the system with a litght telling them somethings wrong. God designed a perfect world what has man designed that's perfect.
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A perfect world wouldn't be screwed up by a single, minor event.
Apparently your gawd has never heard of backup systems or redundancy so that the first little blip in the system doesn't cause it to crash.
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 18, 2018 at 4:09 am
(June 18, 2018 at 3:18 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (June 18, 2018 at 1:35 am)Godscreated Wrote: The act caused the action. A bad oxygen sensor can cost you much money. yet people drive around all the time with bad sensors and have been warned by the system with a litght telling them somethings wrong. God designed a perfect world what has man designed that's perfect.
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A perfect world wouldn't be screwed up by a single, minor event.
Apparently your gawd has never heard of backup systems or redundancy so that the first little blip in the system doesn't cause it to crash.
Sin is no minor event and sin allowed the action it took to over turn the perfect creation, what's the matter with you can't you hear what's being said.
It did not crash the creation has gone on to this very day. God always had a plan, the plan of salvation to redeem us.
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 18, 2018 at 4:43 am
(June 18, 2018 at 4:09 am)Godscreated Wrote: what's the matter with you can't you hear what's being said.
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Too intelligent to buy your bullshit.
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 18, 2018 at 5:27 am
(June 16, 2018 at 2:14 am)Godscreated Wrote: ...The God who created the universe did not mess-up anything, man screwed it up and man is the only one responsible. God created it perfect in six days and man screwed it up with one disobedient act, and he did so after being warned it would be costly...
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So this omniwise ™ god created a universe knowing it would end up a three pronged clusterfuck but he went ahead anyway? Doesn't sound very wise to me.
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 19, 2018 at 12:54 am
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(June 18, 2018 at 4:43 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (June 18, 2018 at 4:09 am)Godscreated Wrote: what's the matter with you can't you hear what's being said.
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Too intelligent to buy your bullshit.
I'm not selling, it's free for the having. All you need to do is ask God.
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(June 18, 2018 at 5:27 am)Succubus Wrote: (June 16, 2018 at 2:14 am)Godscreated Wrote: ...The God who created the universe did not mess-up anything, man screwed it up and man is the only one responsible. God created it perfect in six days and man screwed it up with one disobedient act, and he did so after being warned it would be costly...
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So this omniwise ™ god created a universe knowing it would end up a three pronged clusterfuck but he went ahead anyway? Doesn't sound very wise to me.
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He created it all because of His love for man even before He created him. There is great wisdom in real love of that magnitude.
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 19, 2018 at 1:23 am
(June 19, 2018 at 12:54 am)Godscreated Wrote: (June 18, 2018 at 4:43 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Too intelligent to buy your bullshit.
I'm not selling, it's free for the having. All you need to do is ask God. And what if the voice that answers is that of Satan pretending to be your god? How could you tell the difference?
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 19, 2018 at 9:21 am
(June 18, 2018 at 1:35 am)Godscreated Wrote: (June 17, 2018 at 2:31 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Wow. Your gawd's creation was screwed by a single act of disobedience by a lowly mortal? You do understand that's kinda like saying the entire car got screwed up because one valve stem cap came off, right?
Your gawd is a shit designer.
The act caused the action. A bad oxygen sensor can cost you much money. yet people drive around all the time with bad sensors and have been warned by the system with a litght telling them somethings wrong. God designed a perfect world what has man designed that's perfect.
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We design things that are much harder to break, and much easier to fix. He knows how to create something. He just doesn't know how to run things. Like when some Saturday morning cartoon villain takes over the world, but it promptly goes to shit afterwards.
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 19, 2018 at 9:33 am
We'd fire a zookeeper who kept blaming the monkeys for his poor job performance.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 19, 2018 at 11:55 pm
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(June 19, 2018 at 9:21 am)Chad32 Wrote: (June 18, 2018 at 1:35 am)Godscreated Wrote: The act caused the action. A bad oxygen sensor can cost you much money. yet people drive around all the time with bad sensors and have been warned by the system with a litght telling them somethings wrong. God designed a perfect world what has man designed that's perfect.
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We design things that are much harder to break, and much easier to fix. He knows how to create something. He just doesn't know how to run things. Like when some Saturday morning cartoon villain takes over the world, but it promptly goes to shit afterwards.
We design simple things, and some we can't fix. We brought sin into this world and it has caused great harm and we have yet to fix any of it. God's plan is coming to fruition and will soon be completed and the result will be a sinless perfect world, eternal.
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(June 19, 2018 at 9:33 am)Khemikal Wrote: We'd fire a zookeeper who kept blaming the monkeys for his poor job performance.
So you see yourself as the monkey in the cage, interesting to say the least.
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RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 20, 2018 at 12:02 am
More a reflection of your own mythology, don;t you think?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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