Who killed Jesus?

[SteveII]

I have not figured you out yet. You start threads that are fairly juvenile--which is okay--you may be a juvenile. There is no attempt to actually think about your post in any kind of context. You just take random thoughts out of context and draw these quick conclusions that either a) have nothing to do with anything or b) are actually mischaracterizations of the belief. You don't have a firm grasp on what Christians actually believe yet you feel the compunction to start new threads constantly that criticize some aspect. It's almost as if you just want a bunch of people to agree with your point regardless if it is actually a good point. Well, if that is your goal you came to the right place. These people love straw man arguments and rarely will call you out on one. 

If that is not your goal, a good discussion practice is to present your opponents belief as honestly and generously as possible and then tell why you still think the belief is wrong or leads to some sort of problem. 

For instance, it is trivially easy to see that God did not kill his child. Jesus is God. So, there is no other way to see this other than God sacrificed himself. Additionally, did God sacrifice himself to show his love or was there a purpose to that sacrifice and that purpose showed his love? You mischaracterize two important points in one sentence. You are efficient!

For starters, have you read the article?

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/who-killed-jesus

I actually did read the devotional. Do you have a point? You did not get that God "killed his/her child to show that he/she really loves you" from that. If you did, you have major reading comprehension issues. Go ahead--quote the verses that support your characterization. 

 Secondly, why should I talk to a heretic?

LOL, a heretic! That would presuppose that you knew the beliefs of Christianity in the first place to compare them to my beliefs.  

You have a choice: 1) continue on as you have been and prove that you really are happy with your intellectually-stunted, straw-man errecting, red herring throwing, echo chamber, approval seeking, angry atheist shtick or 2) admit the truth--that you really don't understand the things you wish to criticize and try to lean something before spouting off nonsense.  I don't care which.

[The Grand Nudger]

"Girl....I love you so much....I killed our son to prove it."

[Minimalist]

Somebody had to take the blame for what the roman government is supposed to have done to a god, and it wasn't going to be rome...since christianity needed rome and romans in order to become a relevant political force.

Did Rome and Romans need Christianity?

It was one of the dumber decisions in history, that's for certain.

[The Grand Nudger]

In the long view, perhaps it was a dumb idea..but it did help key emperors to consolidate their power.

[downbeatplumb]

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/who-killed-jesus

I just wonder, if a person wants to marry you, and will kill his/her child to show that he/she really loves you, will you love this person better???

Heavily armed smurfs.

[Minimalist]

In the long view, perhaps it was a dumb idea..but it did help key emperors to consolidate their power.

Read "The Jesus Wars" by J. P. Jenkins.  Actually it was a long-standing source of civil unrest particularly in the East.  Theodosius fucked up because he was a xhristard.

[Neo-Scholastic]

You have a choice: 1) continue on as you have been and prove that you really are happy with your intellectually-stunted, straw-man errecting, red herring throwing, echo chamber, approval seeking, angry atheist shtick or 2) admit the truth--that you really don't understand the things you wish to criticize and try to lean something before spouting off nonsense.  I don't care which.

Isn't that what most of AF is all about? How can you selectively criticize one member when those practices are ubiquitous!!!

(...and I resent not being recognized as the resident heretic.)

[Graufreud]

 Secondly, why should I talk to a heretic?

LOL, a heretic! That would presuppose that you knew the beliefs of Christianity in the first place to compare them to my beliefs.  

You have a choice: 1) continue on as you have been and prove that you really are happy with your intellectually-stunted, straw-man errecting, red herring throwing, echo chamber, approval seeking, angry atheist shtick or 2) admit the truth--that you really don't understand the things you wish to criticize and try to lean something before spouting off nonsense.  I don't care which.

I heard something similar from a teenaged Harry Potter fan.

BTW, you would have been a Christian, if you knew the beliefs of Christianity yourself. 
Maybe you should finally start praying sincerely to God?

[The Grand Nudger]

@Min
I'm woefully unfamiliar with the eastern empire.  You know how it goes. Thx for the recc.

[The Valkyrie]

His dad!!