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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 9:26 am
(August 20, 2018 at 9:24 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I went through a McDonald's drive through in central Iowa and was served by a overweight white teenager and the first thing I thought was "white privilege"...not.
One might argue that it is not the color of one's skin that affords privilege in life, but instead the color of one's skin that afford's the absence of discrimination. Her need for lipo, on the other hand....
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 9:46 am
Quote:I went through a McDonald's drive through in central Iowa and was served by a overweight white teenager and the first thing I thought was "white privilege"...not.
And total ignorance of what privilege is
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 9:47 am
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A relative freedom from discrimination is a textbook example of white privilege. I know, I know, people who contend that there is no such thing think that white privilege means every white person gets to be rich and successful or somesuch shit.
Gee, I wonder who or what might have lead people to think that?
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 11:57 am
Oooooh-weee! Listen along with me!
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 12:46 pm
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(August 20, 2018 at 9:26 am)Kit Wrote: (August 20, 2018 at 9:24 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I went through a McDonald's drive through in central Iowa and was served by a overweight white teenager and the first thing I thought was "white privilege"...not.
One might argue that it is not the color of one's skin that affords privilege in life, but instead the color of one's skin that afford's the absence of discrimination. Her need for lipo, on the other hand....
I would say that is a fair point. Prejudice can take many forms. "Intersectionality" spreads until the dimensions of victimization, like fat shaming, become so numerous that we have to start treating people like individuals again, and not as groups. Intersectionality, trying to determine who has been most victimized, is a self-defeating concept unless it rigidly maintains arbitrary boundaries.
Peterson’s main argument against identity politics and the concept of white privilege is that they are rooted in a neo-Marxist dogma in which all social interactions are viewed as a power-struggle between oppressors and their victims. Historically, this reductive analysis of social interaction only ever leads to catastrophe. For example, after the overthrow and execution of the monarchy, the Jacobins went on to behead Carmelite nuns who, in the eyes of the Jacobins, represented ecclesiastical power. The purges of China’s ‘Cultural Revolution’ spread wider and wider in search of vestiges of ‘imperialism’ to include minor intellectuals, artists, and musicians.
The above are classic examples of how claims of institutional guilt, like the so-called “systems of white supremacy and patriarchy” eventually get transferred to relatively powerless individuals. The high degree of variability with respect to who counts as oppressed and who counts as an oppressor allows purity purges to be turned against whatever out-group someone wants to vilify.
Looking at the vitriol directed rural low-income whites, in the rural South and Midwest, it is difficult for me to see how anyone can judge this demographic as a source of oppression. It seems to me that the majority of people demonizing a legitimate underclass are upper-income highly educated urban professionals. IMO those who regularly insult Southerners and Evangelicals are just using them as proxies to justify their own sense of moral and intellectual superiority. The insults against them, the white working class, are motivated by the smug self-righteousness of the upper-class and the contempt is has for the working class. You can hear it every time you here that condescending phrase “they [rural whites] are voting against their best interests” or What's Wrong with Kansas. In other words, your superiors know what’s good for you better than you do. Time for your re-education.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 12:52 pm
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Unfortunately for Peterson's argument, and your comments, white privilege is a thing and the sjws you both hate are wholly onboard with the plight of the working poor.
How the failures of a totalitarian regime using the veil of marxism get's hung on some poor fuckers neck for suggesting that Ashland Oil ought not to have turned parts of Kentucky into a radioactive shithole while impoverishing their labor, before buying out the legislature and clearing out of town..... is beyond me. It's downright comical coming from former cold warriors turned traitorous colluders with the current incarnation of russian fuckery.
It is for the single issue of the racial resentments of those working poor stoked by the traitor caucus for years and years and years that the rural white demographic sees social justice as the enemy. As the thing that's trying to make the lazy blacks lot in life better than their own. The right has literally set the whites on the blacks and so against their own interests and pulled an olympic level 180 pinning that piece of heinous shit on the left...in states that the right has controlled since the dems lost the entire south by finally recognizing the personhood of blacks to begin with.
But you fight the good fight, Neo..keep selling the lie. That's been going gangbusters for rural whites, huh?
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 12:55 pm
Wow, that video seems pretty damning. It makes Peterson out to be a veiled Christian preacher. But don't worry, I checked and they were accidentally reading a Ray Comfort book intermittently. See if you can pick out when it happens.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Stop, Rob. Stop.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 1:07 pm
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LOL. You know what..the south might even -need- a little murderous boogeyman marxism. Rise up with all their guns in a class war against the reps who've sold them out. We're always threatening to do it. The term redneck fucking derives from a labor dispute anyway. Only time in history that I'm aware of that the us military intentionally bombed us citizens....for daring to organize a miners union. Colonial NE elites exploiting the american congo and it's subhuman denizens to keep the spice flowing.
Not too much different than a certain grifter from New York, today..when you think about it. Oh well, it's too bad that this is where I diverge from the left in it's blanket condemnation of the validity of violence to effect political change. So I guess they'll just have to keep trying to talk them out of the stupor that's been thrust upon them.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 20, 2018 at 8:08 pm
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And Neo spewing forth toxic myths white does exist and patriarchy does exist and poor whites do vote against their own interests and this bullocks of "lets treat people like individuals" is simple denialism of those facts and trying to link all that to communist conspiracy is absurd .
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