The only way this will stop is if the catholic parishioners stand up in mass (not the service) and start making their voice heard with dollars (actually a lack of dollars).
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Pope Francis Abuse Scandal
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 (August 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: The only way this will stop is if the catholic parishioners stand up in mass (not the service) and start making their voice heard with dollars (actually a lack of dollars). Africa and So America are still giving them money. I despair of it ever going under.
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 (August 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: The only way this will stop is if the catholic parishioners stand up in mass (not the service) and start making their voice heard with dollars (actually a lack of dollars). I vote for Catholics protesting both en masse and in mass, particularly if the priest starts making apologetic noises for the shameful way the RCC has addressed these criminal acts.
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Well any void left by them surely will be filled with evangelical megachurches that are on par with them.
God needs money! 
Perhaps I missed something as I only read this on my phone, which cuts off articles, and I will never defend any sorry of sexual preditory behavior, but what was this guy accused of?
What I'm reading says he basically hit on other priests and 18 plus seminarians. He put a hand on a shoulder or knee, invited people to his rooms, and had consensual gay sex. Is there more to the accusation that I'm missing? I set nothing about children or rape or even like forced kissing or grabbing guys junk. I must be missing something.
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August 26, 2018 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2018 at 5:21 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(August 26, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Aroura Wrote: Perhaps I missed something as I only read this on my phone, which cuts off articles, and I will never defend any sorry of sexual preditory behavior, but what was this guy accused of? No, I think you are right actually. I initially thought children were involved, but as I am reading more sources and re reading, it's looking like he just slept with adults.... . If that is the case, it kind of makes more sense why Pope Francis would be forgiving of him and not kick him out of the church. I don't know, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what's going on.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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It seems a bit more than that....
Quote:In writing up a memo[1] on these documents that were entrusted to me, as Delegate for Pontifical Representations, on December 6, 2006, I wrote to my superiors, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone and the Substitute Leonardo Sandri, that the facts attributed to McCarrick by Littleton were of such gravity and vileness as to provoke bewilderment, a sense of disgust, deep sorrow and bitterness in the reader, and that they constituted the crimes of seducing, requesting depraved acts of seminarians and priests, repeatedly and simultaneously with several people, derision of a young seminarian who tried to resist the Archbishop’s seductions in the presence of two other priests, absolution of the accomplices in these depraved acts, sacrilegious celebration of the Eucharist with the same priests after committing such acts. I mean, I sure as shit don't care about sacrilege but it might be important to people who believe in such stuff. (August 26, 2018 at 5:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 26, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Aroura Wrote: Perhaps I missed something as I only read this on my phone, which cuts off articles, and I will never defend any sorry of sexual preditory behavior, but what was this guy accused of? Umm. Sexual harassment of adults, while perhaps less repugnant than sexually abusing children, is hardly an excuse for Bergoglio's behaviour in this specific case.
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Oh I agree. Just didn't know if it was harassment or consensual. Either way, as a superior to a seminarian, it is completely unacceptable for him to have done anything remotely sexual with any of them.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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