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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:22 am
Still waiting on some clarity as to whether this is junk science, a product of the push to publish...or LGBTQ shitting on good science.
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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:25 am
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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:29 am
(August 29, 2018 at 10:25 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I’m not against peer review, just when people elevate it beyond reason. In this I am talking of the process the journals go through. I am for open discourse of ideas.
Fair enough. But bear in mind that it normally happens when the alternative is a religionist pushing ideas about the nature of reality that have had zero peer review.
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August 29, 2018 at 10:31 am
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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:43 am
You know, we should just stop calling Christianity "Christianity" and just call it outright Bigotry. That's all it is anymore. Christians don't do anything positive for anyone. They just attack minority groups.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:44 am
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I would be surprised if a single scientist would claim that there aren't mistakes made in peer review, or agenda-driven results at times. So I don't know what the point of this thread is.
I have no idea what the truth of the original claim is, or of the objections. All I would care about is the truth coming out eventually. The way to best guarantee this is continued peer review. People don't get to find a result they like and then contest that any errors found must be agenda driven.
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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:45 am
(August 29, 2018 at 10:29 am)Mathilda Wrote: (August 29, 2018 at 10:25 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I’m not against peer review, just when people elevate it beyond reason. In this I am talking of the process the journals go through. I am for open discourse of ideas.
Fair enough. But bear in mind that it normally happens when the alternative is a religionist pushing ideas about the nature of reality that have had zero peer review.
This seems to be a bias against those of faith, which bias is one of the issues. Also remember the discussion that peer review isn't just the initial review of the publishing journal. If there is good reason to argue against a specific study, then I think that should be presented and discussed, rather than making hyperbole about "zero peer review".
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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:47 am
Reality has a well known bias against the contents of peoples faiths. Take it up with the universe, it's your problem.
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RE: LGBT shuts down science
August 29, 2018 at 10:50 am
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(August 29, 2018 at 10:47 am)Khemikal Wrote: Reality has a well known bias against the contents of peoples faiths. Take it up with the universe, it's your problem.
Do you have an example for how you came to that conclusion? I don't find the same in regards to my faith.
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August 29, 2018 at 10:50 am
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(August 29, 2018 at 10:44 am)robvalue Wrote: I would be surprised if a single scientist would claim that there aren't mistakes made in peer review, and agenda-driven results at times. So I don't know what the point of this thread is.
I have no idea what the truth of the original claim is, or of the objections. All I would care about is the truth coming out eventually. The way to best guarantee this is continued peer review. People don't get to find a result they like and then contest that any errors found must be agenda driven. The point is to bash trans advocates or undermine science and to place people who accept both in a false catch 22 in an attempt to be clever .
Too bad Beta Fail lacks the ability to pull it off .
Quote:Do you have an example for how you came to that conclusion? I don't find the same in regards to my faith.
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