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LGBT shuts down science
#51
RE: LGBT shuts down science
When your intellect fails you, make up a straw man to knock down. 

You wouldn't want to hurt yourself.
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#52
RE: LGBT shuts down science
Quote:As it made it through peer review, the charges on methodology are BS. Or, peer review is BS. Take your pick.

You're BS. along with the rest of your fascist, buddies.  That's my pick.



Oh, and Brown was founded by baptist fuckheads. Unlike these theological prison camps in the south, they don't seem to make a big deal of it anymore.  Perhaps they wised up?
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#53
RE: LGBT shuts down science
Quote:When your intellect fails you, make up a straw man to knock down.  
When his intellect succeeds you scream straw man and act like you have discredited his point .



Quote:You wouldn't want to hurt yourself.
No but your butt hurt shows he pinched a nerve .
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#54
RE: LGBT shuts down science
I'll just put some things here.

The published study and comments: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl...#abstract0

Julia Serano response: https://medium.com/@juliaserano/everythi...40b8afdeba

Response to Julia Serano: http://gdworkinggroup.org/2018/08/27/res...l-reports/

WPATH: https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Document...0WPATH.pdf
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#55
RE: LGBT shuts down science
(August 29, 2018 at 11:44 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I'll just put some things here.

The published study and comments: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl...#abstract0

Julia Serano response: https://medium.com/@juliaserano/everythi...40b8afdeba

Response to Julia Serano: http://gdworkinggroup.org/2018/08/27/res...l-reports/

WPATH: https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Document...0WPATH.pdf

I would say that those are legitimate critiques and things to point out. But not reason to negate the previous peer review. One may note, that the conclusion of the original PLOS says that more study is needed.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#56
RE: LGBT shuts down science
(August 29, 2018 at 8:34 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 29, 2018 at 8:22 am)Brian37 Wrote: Then why does it's shield have a cross on it? Just because it is ivy league doesn't mean it isn't religious. Notre Dame is a Catholic College. At  minimum those who lead the study were bias with bigoted leanings. The AMA has long since said homosexuality is normal. And we are growing to learn that the brain does not always fit the plumbing, which is why Transgender get sex changes. 

Take your pick.


https://www.google.com/search?q=brown+un...66&bih=662

Really?  That's why you think it's a religious institution?  According to wiki, Brown was the first US college to accept students regardless of religions affiliation.  And

Quote:Brown's faculty and alumni include eight Nobel Prize laureates, five National Humanities Medalists[13] and ten National Medal of Science laureates. Other notable alumni include eight billionaire graduates,[14] a U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice, four U.S. Secretaries of State and other Cabinet officials, 54 members of the United States Congress, 55 Rhodes Scholars, 52 Gates Cambridge Scholars[15] 49 Marshall Scholars,[16][17] 14 MacArthur Genius Fellows,[18] 21 Pulitzer Prize winners, various royals and nobles, as well as leaders and founders of Fortune 500 companies


I took the liberty of browsing their website, and nothing I saw indicates that they're a religious school of any denomination.

Boru

That does not stop religious people from applying and getting in. And as old as that college is, you cannot claim that it was not more religious when it was founded. I graduated from a college Jerry Falwell left. Moron claimed it was because my college didn't teach "real Christianity". My college started out as deeply religious when it was founded, but over the years it scrapped that and became secular. 

Just like you cannot separate Notre Dame from it's Catholic start. The college I graduated from had originally a very Christian name. 

Brown's shield has a cross on it. If it were 100% neutral and secular it would not have that. 

Regardless. The "study" is nothing but making excuses for bigotry. 

If Muslims argue that Transgender is wrong, or a "defect" and even if I agreed it was, which it is not, would you still buy that argument? 

THE AMA is what matters. Not bigoted bullshit from religious people. And even with transgender, we are finding out that the brain does not always match the plumbing. 

If you want to play apologist for asshole bigots, you can. I refuse. It still amounts that if you are not involved in that relationship, between partners, or the relationship between the transgender and doctor, YOU HAVE NO SAY.
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#57
RE: LGBT shuts down science
Again, britishness, not religiousity.  Doesn't seem to be particularly british anymore.. either.  Maybe you should suggest that they take it down if they want to be truly american? 

Put a fuckin bird on there, or something. Wink
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#58
RE: LGBT shuts down science
(August 29, 2018 at 11:32 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:As it made it through peer review, the charges on methodology are BS. Or, peer review is BS. Take your pick.

You're BS. along with the rest of your fascist, buddies.  That's my pick.



Oh, and Brown was founded by baptist fuckheads.  Unlike these theological prison camps in the south, they don't seem to make a big deal of it anymore.  Perhaps they wised up?

To be fair, most of the colleges state or private that were founded in the early days of America, while some more than others questioned authority, most were mixing education with religion.

Like I said, the college I graduated from started out a "Christian college" but far too many of it's staff were liberal, so eventually they scrapped the original name.
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#59
RE: LGBT shuts down science
I'm sorry  Roberto D'Angelo response is just empty and he does not respond to the medium article at all and here is their take down of his article 
https://medium.com/@juliaserano/rapid-on...88a83bcd60
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#60
RE: LGBT shuts down science
I don't think you clowns understand the peer review process.  It isn't like your fucking churches where some asshole stands up and says something stupid and all the other assholes say "Hallelujah...praise jebus."

No.  Peer Review means that other people who have studied the field in question weigh in to either support or critique the paper under review and hopefully - unlike dumbass xtians - actually have some evidence to point to for their positions.  It is not a one-shot deal.  It is a process.  It can go one for years. 

I know you guys don't have the attention span for that.
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