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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 3:38 pm
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(September 14, 2018 at 2:42 pm)alpha male Wrote: Call it a deflection if you prefer. 
Lol, I just got done acknowledging your OP, and that Obama being dishonest is wrong, AND that people should be prepared to discuss both sides in order to have productive dialogue, and you got me ‘deflecting’ from that? Now you’re just being dishonest for the sake of arguing.
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 3:48 pm
You expected him to do otherwise ?
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 4:23 pm
(September 14, 2018 at 2:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (September 13, 2018 at 3:03 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Obama's promoting medicare for all now. It would have been better if he pushed it while he still had the power to enact it. Instead we get the ACA, which didn't go far enough. I find it a bit dishonest to talk about it now, when he safely can't do much about it, but talking like he's on the right side of the issue now paints him in a better light for people who don't know he started with a super majority when he was in office. He could have gotten anything he wanted, but he buckled and went with something the republicans hated anyway.
Just an FYI, he was pushing for a version of medicare for all when he was President. It was called the public option. Joe Lieberman didn't support it, and his vote was require to avoid a filibuster. Ultimately it was dropped to get something passed.
The 60 votes Obama had in the Senate was flimsy thanks to right-leaning Dems and Lieberman, much how many decisions in our current Senate are based on the whim of Senators Collins and Murkowski for the Republicans.
He should have been harder of those democrats, then. Saying if they don't fall in line with progressive plans, he'd have them primaried. He needed to be tougher, but he buckled.
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Yeah, Obama wasn't the best leader we've ever had, but that doesn't really rescue your earlier point.
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 5:26 pm
(September 14, 2018 at 5:24 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Yeah, Obama wasn't the best leader we've ever had, but that doesn't really rescue your earlier point. Nope not the best President by a long shot
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 5:35 pm
(September 14, 2018 at 11:15 am)alpha male Wrote: OK, it's fair to post about a Republican's lies, but it's deflection to post about a Democrat. 
Dude. He isn't even in office anymore. Really, I think it's time you and your band of deplorables got over yourselves because hey... look who's knocking on turd fuhrer's doorstep.....
Manafort just plead guilty in exchange for a deal based on his cooperation. Can't blame any of this on Obama, but I'm sure you and your kind will find a way to spin it somehow.
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 5:49 pm
(September 14, 2018 at 5:35 pm)Joods Wrote: (September 14, 2018 at 11:15 am)alpha male Wrote: OK, it's fair to post about a Republican's lies, but it's deflection to post about a Democrat.
Dude. He isn't even in office anymore. Really, I think it's time you and your band of deplorables got over yourselves because hey... look who's knocking on turd fuhrer's doorstep.....
Manafort just plead guilty in exchange for a deal based on his cooperation. Can't blame any of this on Obama, but I'm sure you and your kind will find a way to spin it somehow. Yup this whole thread is just a distraction
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 6:12 pm
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I think it's fine to talk about Obama's inaccuracies as long as he's seen fit to insert himself into the race. I just question the validity of some of the AP article claims. Still, if Obama's nose is growing, and he's actively involved in politics, I see nothing wrong with sharing it and discussing it. Though additionally, there is a question of perspective given both that politicians are known to stumble when it comes to the truth, and Obama apparently isn't immune, as well as acknowledging that this is small potatoes compared to the number of lies and whoppers for which our Liar In Chief has been responsible. If Trump could be restrained to Obama levels, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion, or at least, it would be somewhat different than it is. The failure of both Trump and conservatives as a whole has inflated the issue in a way that it might not have otherwise been, and made the gaffs of Obama more salient.
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 7:00 pm
(September 14, 2018 at 7:23 am)alpha male Wrote: Yep, I'm in that basket of deplorables. 
At least you admit being racist, I guess. Next step is stop being a douche.
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RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 14, 2018 at 7:22 pm
Quote:Yep, I'm in that basket of deplorables.
Good then we don't have to take you seriously.That makes things easy.
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